Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!sri-unix!husc6!think!ames!ptsfa!dual!bigtuna!guest From: guest@bigtuna.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sources.d Subject: Re: Announcement of unmoderated sources mailing list. Message-ID: <49@bigtuna.UUCP> Date: Sat, 6-Jun-87 09:22:57 EDT Article-I.D.: bigtuna.49 Posted: Sat Jun 6 09:22:57 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 7-Jun-87 09:40:52 EDT References: <965@vortex.UUCP> <7946@utzoo.UUCP> <7947@utzoo.UUCP> <34@auscso.UUCP> <2266@hoptoad.uucp> <718@hao.UCAR.EDU> Reply-To: guest@bigtuna.UUCP Organization: University of Hawaii, Bekesy Lab, Neurophysiology Lines: 44 In article <718@hao.UCAR.EDU> woods@hao.UUCP (Greg Woods) writes: >In article <2266@hoptoad.uucp> gnu@hoptoad.uucp (John Gilmore) writes: >>Net.sources is already there. You didn't delete it when the backbone >>told you to, did you? 70% of the net didn't, and ihnp4 among many >>other sites is still carrying it. All it needs is for people to >>post to it instead of complaining about its absence. > > This is a very good point. There is nothing to stop anyone on the net >from carrying whatever groups they want. On the other hand, there is >nothing to force anyone, including the backbone, to carry any particular >group either. If you are unhappy with the newsgroup structure that most of >the backbone has decided to carry, nothing is stopping you from carrying >whatever groups you want using non-backbone feeds. Certainly a much more >constructive thing to do than the constant bitching I keep reading about >what the backbone is doing. > Why bother with all this crap!? Not long ago we still had a reasonable, free exchange newsgroup for sources. Then the creeps that have been unilaterally "reforming" the net into their own image and likeness decided that since they had been getting away with murder already, that it was time to really test their power and see if they could subvert the sources newsgroups also by forcing moderation on them. Why mess with rebuilding a new network when the old one still works? Not net.sources, that's mostly dead. Many sites have removed it I'm sure. comp.sources.misc should not be moderated. Few people want it to be and it doesn't need to be. Let the moderation jerks do what they like. We can just start posting sources to comp.sources.misc directly. Then the group will still be moderated, it's just that everyone will be a moderator. Anyway, when you run postnews just add a line like the following to the article header and rnews will do the rest: Approved: by the majority for unmoderated newsgroups What follows the Approved: part can be anything. Works like a charm. So don't hassle with the moderation bozos just side-step them.