Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!ptsfa!ames!rutgers!dayton!meccts!nis!stag!trb From: trb@stag.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga,comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: Help requested in choosing a pc to purchase Message-ID: <138@stag.UUCP> Date: Sun, 7-Jun-87 15:41:37 EDT Article-I.D.: stag.138 Posted: Sun Jun 7 15:41:37 1987 Date-Received: Mon, 8-Jun-87 05:40:57 EDT References: <1711@ihwpt.ATT.COM> <955@killer.UUCP> Reply-To: trb@stag.UUCP ( Todd Burkey ) Distribution: world Organization: Mindtools ST Access Group, Plymouth, MN Lines: 45 Xref: utgpu comp.sys.amiga:5150 comp.sys.atari.st:3639 I am really tired of seeing an 'analysis comparison' of the three machines (ibm, st, amiga) by someone who obviously hasn't used any of them extensively...what a waste of time. Just to answer a few misunderstandings: There are both IEEE expansion boxes and HP/IB expansion cages available for the ST. We have a local distributor for a german company (in Mnpls, MN!) who develops control system software/hardware for the ST. I have also seen an ST tied into Ethernet at ETA, and at least one ST that I know of has 4 RS232 ports allowing multiple logins under the Multi-Tasking C-Shell (Beckmeyers'). I will try to get more info at our next ST developers' meeting if anyone is interested. Also, it is quite easy to add inexpensive hard drives to the ST, it just costs a bit more because you need to add a case and a SCSI adapter...Figure on paying about $150 more if you just buy bare drives and cases than if you bought an external drive for a PC...$200-$300 more if you buy a pre-packaged drive from Supra. One nice thing about the ST is that if you get a 3.5 inch Supra 20, you will have a very quiet setup (no fans at all)...great for an office environment. In the area of CAD, there are several packages for the ST. First Cad is my favorite 'drafting' type package...I have used it for quick schematics and Logic block diagram drawings. There are probably better ones, but I am a cheapskate (First Cad is $49.95 retail). Also, the new CAD 3D 2.0 is pretty nice for simple 3D visualization...it is incredible when used with the Tektronic 3D glasses (I have actually used one at last...but hear that the order backlog is >3 months). I wouldn't do anything very large with CAD 3D, however (i.e. no building design). I have heard rumors that some of the $500-$5000 cad packages for the PC have been ported to the ST, but I haven't seen any yet. In the area of word processors, I still haven't seen anything 'great' out yet for the ST. I revert to Final Word for large manuals and First Word (or Publishing Partner) for small stuff. On the other hand, there are more good database progs (relational, graphics based, spreadsheet, etc) than I care to think about for the ST, so I don't (I wrote a simple database program once on the 8 bit Atari and it was all I have ever needed for my own database work.) -Todd Burkey ...ihnp4!meccts!stag!trb