Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!husc6!mit-eddie!ll-xn!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!COGSCI.BERKELEY.EDU!bryce From: bryce@COGSCI.BERKELEY.EDU (Bryce Nesbitt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Re: Suggestion for new 'feature' for 1.3 Message-ID: <8706260624.AA20450@cogsci.berkeley.edu> Date: Fri, 26-Jun-87 02:24:56 EDT Article-I.D.: cogsci.8706260624.AA20450 Posted: Fri Jun 26 02:24:56 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 27-Jun-87 07:08:12 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Lines: 64 In article <6192@eddie.MIT.EDU> Gary Samad typed: }In article dillon@CORY.BERKELEY.EDU (Matt Dillon) writes: }} }} How about this for V1.3: [...] }} [It] would be utterly trivial to write a program to handle this... }} simply catch CloseWindow(), do the CloseWindow(), then push a mouse click }} into the input event stream. }} } [puhleeze] don't add anything to the OS that starts sending false mouse } clicks down the input streams!! It's one thing if people want to torture } themselves by running daemons that send these clicks and double clicks } around but don't force me to deal with unwanted gadget activations, etc. } that are caused by unintentional mouse clicks. You are correct, dumping click events into the input stream is a nasty thing to do. What is needed is a way to say to Intuition, ActiveateWindowUnderPointer() or, better, WhichWindowIsUnderThePointer() I tried to ask JimM this question at a recent BADGE meeting, but did not quite get to it. SunMouse would then become a respected member of society, as would the idea you complained about. AutoFacc is just plain dirty, and will soon be obsoleted by Facc II, anyway. Have any more click-ish programs to complain about? While on the subject of needed Intuition tricks, how about RethinkWindow(). It would rethink a window, primarily the size and position, in one atomic step. This would eliminate the need for a TWO step move THEN size operation. > And, by the way, to some programs (such as The Microfiche Filer) double-clicks > are meaningful and if you run one of these double-click-eaters you cannot > effectively use the program! [ That's my goldfish you just stepped on! :-] If you are referring to the only double-click program I know of, ClickToFront, you're wrong. ClickToForont does not eat anything but ~50 bytes of RAM. The thing that can trip ClickToFront up is if something like SunMouse or Matt's idea dumps a fake click event into the stream. Try ClickToFront with Microfiche, or just with the Workbench tool. Both use double-clicks, and both integrate smoothly. >-------- > This is not to say that these programs are not useful to some people, but > it would be a grave mistake to add something like this to the OS. Not to rule on the merit of these ideas in particular, but I'm convinced that they could be added to the OS with no problems. Also remember that when something becomes part of the OS everyone will get a chance to test their stuff out with it, and problems can be compensated for. The Amiga is amazingly tollerant and forgiving as to the amount of stuff you may muck with externally before something breaks. The only grave is the lack of innovation, enhancemnt and change. } Thank you. } Gary |\ /| . Ack! (NAK, EOT, SOH) {o o} . ( " ) bryce@cogsci.berkeley.EDU -or- ucbvax!cogsci!bryce U Single tasking? Just stare at them for a moment, then start to laugh.