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From: peterson@utah-cs.UUCP (John W Peterson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: AEGIS Vs UNIX (particularly that DM...)
Message-ID: <4627@utah-cs.UUCP>
Date: Fri, 5-Jun-87 02:19:47 EDT
Article-I.D.: utah-cs.4627
Posted: Fri Jun  5 02:19:47 1987
Date-Received: Tue, 9-Jun-87 02:22:58 EDT
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept
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Re: Dynamic linking:  Apollo actually has had the ability to load (and reload)
new libraries on the fly.  They just never documented it (grumble grumble..)

Re: Tab characters and the DM not reading '.login' - try fixing your
key definitions (hint: look at /sys/dm/bsd4.2_keys2, "stab" and "r3").

Speaking of cryptic key defs, many of the flames about the Apollo posted
here are really flames about the DM (and it's illegitimate child,
vt100_server).  And they're not unjustified - the DM was hot stuff in
1982, but relative to the rest of the world it hasn't gotten much
warmer.

If you are running a B&W DN3000 with 4 meg or more of memory, and you 
want "a unix box", you should very seriously consider running the X
window system instead of the DM.  All those obnoxious misfeatures of
vt100 and pads you can't control go away, and your machine looks just
like your Suns, HP's, uVaxen, etc (assuming you run X on those too).
For a large part of the user community at Utah, their Apollo specific
knowledge is simply "log in and type 'X'".  (Actually, they generally
also know how to unwedge the TCP server...)

Now, I did say a B&W DN3000 with 4 meg or more of memory.  X runs nowhere
near as fast as the DM, and we've found that on older Apollos the
performance isn't quite acceptable; but on DN3000's it's OK.  This really
isn't X's fault, the Apollo port has been around less than a year, vs.
half a decade of careful tweaking for the DM.  Perhaps this will even
out when Apollo offically releases their X implementation.

Cheers,
jp