Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rutgers!ames!sdcsvax!ucbvax!YALE.ARPA!slade-stephen From: slade-stephen@YALE.ARPA (Stephen Slade) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo Subject: Re: Aegis Vs. Unix Message-ID: <8706100435.AA06082@yale-eli.arpa> Date: Wed, 10-Jun-87 00:35:12 EDT Article-I.D.: yale-eli.8706100435.AA06082 Posted: Wed Jun 10 00:35:12 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 20-Jun-87 03:56:41 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Distribution: world Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 27 Much of the functionality of the C-shell isn't needed on the Apollos. I rarely use the history functions (!!, etc.) on the Apollos because "Again" and C&P are so much handier, and I'm sure there are other examples. "again" and "cut and paste" are a bearly adequate replacement for csh history functions. The problem is interposed program output, which causes command lines to be scrolled off the page, requiring a lot of keystrokes to find an reexecute commands. A better solution than either of these is the technique used in the ksh where simple key sequences pan back through the history file, selecting those lines which were specifically entered as commands. I'd rank the csh second in usability of this function and the DM last. Note: the DM's "undo" command serves exactly this function when typed to an input pad. This is usually much more convenient than history hacking or "again" with cut and paste. In a departure from accepted practice, I shall refrain from expressing any deep sentiments about adherents of the UNIX user interface beyond those implicit in the following verse. "Eunuchs, abortive Platonists and priests Speak always very wisely about love." - Theodore Spencer, An Act of Life (1944) --Stephen Slade -------