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From: nazgul@apollo.uucp (Kee Hinckley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: Bickering
Message-ID: <356f06c8.b0a1@apollo.uucp>
Date: Fri, 12-Jun-87 18:52:00 EDT
Article-I.D.: apollo.356f06c8.b0a1
Posted: Fri Jun 12 18:52:00 1987
Date-Received: Sun, 21-Jun-87 01:43:20 EDT
References: <679@gryphon.CTS.COM>
Reply-To: nazgul@apollo.UUCP (Kee Hinckley)
Organization: Apollo Computer, Chelmsford, MA
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Keywords: UN*X vs. AEGIS

In article <679@gryphon.CTS.COM> richard@gryphon.CTS.COM (Richard Sexton) writes:
> Now, you wanna learn some usefull Apollo tips ? Here are some I 
> gleaned from the ADUS sys_admin sig meeting last week in Chicago.
> 
> 	6) You can pipe an AEGIS command to a UN*X command iff
> 	the AEGIS command is the first command. This is not commutative.

Ummm.  Could someone kindly give me an example of this?  This is the first
I've heard of it and I have the (mis?)fortune of currently owning all of the 
shells.  I certainly can't duplicate it.  It *is* true that some Unix
commands are sloppy with their return status and will occasionally exit
with a bad exit value which will cause the Aegis shell to discontinue the
pipe, but otherwise I can't imagine why this would be true.

This discussion of Aegis vs. Unix treats things as though they are two completely
different animals, which misses the point.  One of the things that *I* like about
the environment is that I can mix and match Aegis, System V, and BSD4.2 whenever
I want to. 

                                                    -kee

Incidentally, I think someone once complained that the Aegis shell didn't even
have parallel pipes.  I almost changed that at SR8, only to discover that a
number of people were doing things like: "catf file | srf > file"
(translation: "cat file | sort > file") and making any changes would break
them quite badly.  Sigh.
-- 
UUCP: {mit-erl,yale,uw-beaver}!apollo!nazgul  ARPA: apollo!nazgul@eddie.mit.edu
I'm not sure which upsets me more; that people are so unwilling to accept
responsibility for their own actions, or that they are so eager to regulate 
everyone else's.