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From: norman@sdics.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple
Subject: Handholding needed on a new GS
Message-ID: <374@sdics.ucsd.EDU>
Date: Sun, 7-Jun-87 01:27:13 EDT
Article-I.D.: sdics.374
Posted: Sun Jun  7 01:27:13 1987
Date-Received: Sun, 7-Jun-87 19:43:26 EDT
Reply-To: norman@sdics.UUCP (Donald A. Norman)
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Organization: UC San Diego Institute for Cognitive Science
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Keywords: GS slots hard disk 5.25 inch drives swystem installation
Summary: help wanted on GS installation kinks

Umm, I give up trying to get a GS configured.  Can some kind soul give
advice?  Brand new GS. 256K. 3.5 disk. Apple Hard disk. SCSI card.
Imagewriter II.  Memory expansion card in the mail.  No dealer to hold
my hand (that's a long story. No its not mail order. yes it is legal.
No its not illegal or stolen or ...)

GS tour and system files work fine.  Backed up system disk just fine
(only 32 insertions of floppies).

PROBLEMS:

1. Failure to get 5.25 inch drive to work.  I took the card out of my
apple II+, plugged it into slot 6 of the GS (opened up a hole in the
rear to pass the cables through).  As far as I can tell, the drive
isn't visible to the system.  System utilities won't catalog or verify
it.  Local store assured me the II+ card would work: will it?
	Is it realy true that normal II  applications won't just boot on a 5.25
	in drive, but have to have special system software?
	(Of course I don't seem to have the DOS 3.3 system disk
	either.  Manual says I have to go to my delaer. I don't have dealer.

2. Failure to get the hard disk going.  I can't format it.  I can't
figure out how/where to plug it in.  (I installed a SCSI card with the
appropriate cables.  But it is damn hard to figure out from the
manuals which slot to plug it into.  I have it in slot 5, with its
priority set to 6 (as it says to do in the manual?) but whenever I try
to format slot 5 drive 1, it thinks this is the 3.5 inch floppy (which
is plugged into the back of the GS, not into an internal slot).

What am I doing wrong?  I have umpteen manuals from apple, one with
each device and cable, but they are written with zero technical
content, zero tecnical explanation of why.  Etc.  

Main questions.   

A. Will the Apple II+ card work in the GS.  If so, in which slot do I
plug its card?

B. In which slot do I plug the Hard Disk?  What priority do I set its
little switch to?  When I format it, how do I specify the hard disk?
Once I get it formatted, am I going to ened to know some seceret trick
to make the GS boot automatically from the hard disk? 

C. How do I boot normal, standard II-series applications?

D.  What other helpful hints do I need to know.  Any special settings
in the control panel?

I guess you should replay by personal mail.  No sense boring the rst
of you with solutions to my mundane problems.

Sorry. And thanks

don norman


Donald A. Norman
Institute for Cognitive Science C-015
University of California, San Diego
La Jolla, California 92093
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