Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rutgers!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!ucbvax!CZHRZU1A.BITNET!K538915 From: K538915@CZHRZU1A.BITNET Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: Re: Repost due to SCORE failure (LONG) Message-ID: <8706241904.AA03975@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Mon, 22-Jun-87 12:06:12 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.8706241904.AA03975 Posted: Mon Jun 22 12:06:12 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 26-Jun-87 06:23:53 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Distribution: world Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 61 ihnp4!utzoo!lsuc!jimomura Jim Omura writes: >In article <8706162240.AA07496@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> IHLS400@INDYCMS.BITNET.UUCP ... >>don't think it will be a major concern for Atari, since I don't think >>they will sell all that many of them without the blitter. (Gossip > I'm glad that they are going ahead with sales without the Blitter. >My opinion is exactly 180 degrees from most people. To me the Blitter >is the *least* important thing about the Mega ST's. The other improvements >are paramount and make the ST a "real computer". The biggest problem >was the lack of a real expansion buss. We have software capable of Even if the Blitter would have not been the most important thing about the Mega ST's, you can't denie that it would have helped the ST with something which is painfully slow (even if not so slow as on a 8086): screen I/O, a lot of applications could have profited from the facilites a Blitter would have offered. But what I think is far more important: a working Mega-ST production with Blitter would have given us some measure of the technical competence of Atari (not just in the design itself, but also in turning a design into a REAL product). As the situation presents itself, it would be foolhardy to expect TT's and EST's from a company that just manages to hack a battery backed-up clock into its original design. More so the Blitter farce even shows the amount of incompetence in the management of Atari, any self respecting company would have given the project up a long time ago instead of pouring more money into it. ... > The 40 folder limit could be cleaned up without a Blitter. As I >understand it, it will be. As I understand, it will NOT be. The only thing Atari has admitted, is that they have/are/will be working on a new version of GEMDOS for release some time in the future, as far as we know this could just be another proof for the amount of competence in HYPE that Atari has. BTW a more supicous person than I am, could suggest that Atari has been systematically avoiding the publishing of fixes: HD boot fix: been available Atari internally for a long time, but probably will never be distributed. HDB 2.3 is probably better anyway! 40 folder fix: FOLDRXXX was obviously procduced as a quick 'save our face' operation after GEMBOOT was made avaiable, with no intent on ever really distributing it (a nice touch was the way Atari leaked it out that they had a fix via Atari Germany, just to complain later it had been pirated!). > Interesting. I seem to be in complete disagreement with you, >except that we hope and wish that Atari will be responsive to customers >(which I feel they have been and are to the best of their ability and >thus seem in disagreement there) and I think we agree that Atari should >go ahead with the Mega without the Blitter for now. Yes, Allan and Landon do a good job of answering techincal questions, I'm sure THEY won't have trouble finding jobs, when Atari collapses. Simon Poole K538915@CZHRZU1A.BITNET