Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-lcc!pyramid!mikeb From: mikeb@pyrnova (mike brennan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: Unix like tools for MSDOS enviroment... Message-ID: <2876@pyramid.UUCP> Date: Fri, 5-Jun-87 02:32:40 EDT Article-I.D.: pyramid.2876 Posted: Fri Jun 5 02:32:40 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 9-Jun-87 02:32:26 EDT References: <365@booboo.UUCP> <1969@cbmvax.cbmvax.cbm.UUCP> Sender: daemon@pyramid.UUCP Reply-To: mikeb@pyrnova.UUCP (mike brennan) Distribution: comp Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA Lines: 51 In article <1969@cbmvax.cbmvax.cbm.UUCP> phillip@cbmvax.cbm.UUCP (Phillip Lindsay CATS) writes: > > PVCS, PolyShell, PowerCom, PolyMake > PVCS: very close to RCS. Their current version - 1.3 - fixes a lot of earlier problems. Use it solely in a single user environment, so cannot speak about there multiuser version. Polyshell: Rel 1.1, is the first commercial release. Supports most shell functions. Uses about 16k of memory, but pulls in two overlay files for some of the library calls: they say they do this to keep the size of the utilities down which are in some cases bigger than equivalent utilities available in the public domain that run directly under DOS. Have been using this for 3 months, and have run into very few problems. The shell programming is very akin to csh (they claim the Korn shell: but not having used this have no comment), and the history function is identical. Have a very slick help facility. The utilities are pretty complete but missing are: awk, od, dd, ed (really need this with diff), cpio, profile Bugs: cannot load TSR programs under the shell Powercom: never used, but specs look impressive (if you are brave Polyshell has a complete 'cu' utilitiy). Polymake: their Rel 2.0, is much much faster than the older 1.3e release. This is a really complete make. Polylibrarian: a very good library manager PC/VI: since vi is not implemented in Polyshell, PC/VI is a really good implementation of vi. G Gripes: requires FANSI-console to work well. takes inordinate amount of time to load large files. does something totally non-standard to invoke the shell, (command.com -K I believe) that prevents polyshell being executed under pc/vi. Brief: If you are not a vi 'afficiando' (as I am), then I think BRIEF is a much better editor. Very fast screen writing, multiple command line options, supports backup and save files, multiple windows, sane key stroke sequences, ability to compile and correct errors directly from your editing window. All key sequences can be redefined, and has a macro language to allow generation of any command you want. Big gripe, only one scrap buffer, and can only place one mark in the file. Caveat: I have no relationship to Polytron, am just a satisfied user.