Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rochester!pt.cs.cmu.edu!spice.cs.cmu.edu!tdn From: tdn@spice.cs.cmu.edu (Thomas Newton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Multi-vendor Mac failure. Message-ID: <1205@spice.cs.cmu.edu> Date: Wed, 27-May-87 23:35:09 EDT Article-I.D.: spice.1205 Posted: Wed May 27 23:35:09 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 6-Jun-87 15:37:18 EDT Organization: Carnegie Mellon University Lines: 79 > From your tone, it's obvious that you're p*ss*d *ff. From your statements, > it's possible that you have some of the facts, but that being p*ss*d *ff > has fogged your brain. Perhaps you imagine that the moguls operating > MassTech took the money and ran after screwing all the innocents they > could. If so, you're wrong. My statement that I am convinced that they will not return my money voluntarily is based on their record of living up to their claims and promises. Start with the upgrade itself. They assured me that if my Mac's power supply couldn't put out enough power for the board they would put in a supplementary one. But even with the Apple supply turned up to its limit, the voltage was well below 5V. I pointed this out to them, and suggested that it might be causing the problems I was experiencing, but they never did put in an extra power supply to compensate for the excessive drain that their upgrade placed on the existing one. When I asked for reimbursement for the mounting costs of shipping the Macintosh to them for repair, they agreed. I was told that the check was in the mail, or that it would go out "on Monday"; it never came. They told me that I would get a refund when I returned the upgrade. I returned it, but the check never came. They gave me the runaround when I called, until one day when I went to call and their phone numbers were not working. So I sent certified mail, return receipt requested. It was returned marked "Refused". Not another standard reason like "Addressee unknown" or "Insufficient address". "Refused". I got in touch with the Massachusetts Attorney General's Office. I think they were the ones who told me how to get in contact with MassTech's attorney. The runaround I got from MassTech proper was -nothing- compared to the runaround I got talking to this attorney. He kept claiming how MassTech was going to file for bankruptcy real soon now and how sorry they were and so on and so on. All he ever did was talk. Once he promised me a check for the full amount by some certain date, but it never came. When the check did not come and I called the attorney's office, I was told that this lawyer had been told by another lawyer that he could not legally send me a check due to the upcoming bankruptcy. The thought that runs through my head is that if he was at all competent he surely must have known this at the time that he promised me the check. The runaround went on for so long that the Attorney General's Office told me that "He [the MT attorney] stated once again that he is about to file for bankruptcy and that you should file a proof of claim at that time. Considering the period of time that has passed since Mr. Miller first stated that he was about to file for bankruptcy, it would be a good idea to file in Small Claims Court." [01/16/87] Unfortunately, to do that I would have needed to have gone to Massachusetts or to have hired a representative there, and the bar association which I was able to call said that none of their members took small claims court cases... > MassTech was a small "mom and pop" (literally!) operation. While he was > in business, Steve (president, founder, chief engineer, and janitor) did > his best to deal fairly with customers. Really? I wouldn't know it from the way that I have been treated. They have both my money and the returned upgrade. I have a pile of broken promises and long distance phone bills. > Your experience with MassTech hardware is atypical. In every case I know > where the hardware worked *initially*, and absent any further changes > in environment, it's still working. I think it's pretty bad when a company selling upgrades for vanilla 128K Macs can't get their upgrade to work in an unmodified [until they touched it] 128K Mac given several chances to get it right. Especially since they ignored the requests I made to make sure that the logic board was running at a full 5.0V, even if that meant keeping their promise about adding a supplementary supply. > Be fair, not rabid. > > The writer whose article prompted your outburst... > > ...I lost money when they went under. But I'm not flaming about it... Friends of mine who have observed my behavior throughout this whole affair and the way in which MassTech and its lawyer have treated me haven't considered me to be rabid. On the contrary, I gave MassTech three chances to repair the bad upgrade and remained very civil even while I was getting the runaround. After a long period of dealing with their lawyer, my temper did snap, but it has not been without just cause. -- Thomas Newton