Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rochester!pt.cs.cmu.edu!gnome.cs.cmu.edu!hugo From: hugo@gnome.cs.cmu.edu (Peter Su) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: MPW Pascal versus Lightspeed Pascal: worth it? Message-ID: <37@gnome.cs.cmu.edu> Date: Mon, 1-Jun-87 20:37:08 EDT Article-I.D.: gnome.37 Posted: Mon Jun 1 20:37:08 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 6-Jun-87 18:41:58 EDT References: Organization: Carnegie-Mellon University, CS/RI Lines: 38 Yes it's true, MPW for straight Pascal or C development is a total crock. What you gain in the flexibility of the evironment (programmable editor, the MPW "tools" etc tec) really isn't worth the loss in speed and convenience. BUT, there is one very overpowering reason to put up with it all, and that is, MacApp. No other development system has it, and no other Pascal compiler compiles it, and boy is it nice. Of course, using it doubles your compile-link-edit time, and adds a LOT of code to your application, and it takes up another 2 Meg on your hard disk, but if you are developing BIG, compilcated applications that need to have a great user interface, Macapp is great. Like, to get a simple program with DAs, printing and scrollable windows (in both directions), you just plug in a few routines to set up and display whatever data structures the program manipulates, compile away, make a few library calls, and boom, it's done. No muss, no fuss, and it's really that easy. So, that's why I'd use MPW. But, I'd only like using MPW on a Mac II with a big disk...Mac II's are fast enough to make MPW not quite so slow. Now, if those Think folks could add a bit of Objectness to their C/Pascal compilers...well, THEN we'd have something. Cheers, Pete -- ARPA: hugo@gnome.cs.cmu.edu BELL:412-681-7431 UUCP: ...!{ucbvax,ihnp4,cmucspt}!hugo@gnome.cs.cmu.edu USPS: 5170 Beeler St., Pittsburgh PA 15213 "There are reports that many executives make their decisions by flipping coins or by throwing darts, etc. It is also rumored that some college professors prepare their grades on such a basis." - Donald Knuth