Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rutgers!sri-unix!ctnews!pyramid!oliveb!sun!plaid!chuq From: chuq%plaid@Sun.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: MS Word 3.0 and LaserWriter 4.1 Message-ID: <21521@sun.uucp> Date: Fri, 19-Jun-87 12:57:55 EDT Article-I.D.: sun.21521 Posted: Fri Jun 19 12:57:55 1987 Date-Received: Mon, 22-Jun-87 04:07:06 EDT References: <1590@tekig4.TEK.COM> Sender: news@sun.uucp Reply-To: chuq@sun.UUCP (Chuq Von Rospach) Organization: Fictional Reality, uLtd Lines: 44 >Of course the phrase "Consistent User Interface" is in their dictionary! They >are trying very hard to be consistent with the IBM PC! Remember WordStar? Now, >why do you think that they have so many key-click "equivalents," some that are >"equivalent" to features addressable in no other way? > >From day one, Microsoft has "freely" interpreted the Mac's user interface >guidelines in their own way. Unfortunately their commercial success has made >them insufferable on many fronts, this being only one. Harumph indeed. Commercial success may be making them insufferable (I don't find them that way, personally, but whatthehell), but it is also usually an indicator that something is being done right. Look, there are some botches in Word 3.0 -- I'll agree with that. There are some places where it could be cleaned up. It doesn't necessarily match the Mac paradigms (but the reality is, most people have different views of what the Mac paradigm is -- standard user interface is in the eye of the beholder, more than not; just look at how all these applications define their version of the standard!). But nobody can show me a word processor that has the same essential functionality of Word 3.0 that does it better AND is shipping in the marketplace today AND matches the Mac interface. It doesn't exist -- which doesn't mean it won't. Someone will come and knock Word 3.0 out of the water, just as Forethought took Microsoft File (remember that?) and blew it away with FileMaker+. But until that happens, you can bitch all you want, but for all of its problems, Word 3.0 is the best there is for the power WP user. [[[submittor's note: Now we can all sit down and argue about what the essential functionality is so people can try to flame this posting. For me, if it doesn't have: spell checking, style sheets, glossaries, a full range of character formats including small caps, strikeout, and the standards, significant control of page layout and formatting, and postscript capability, I won't look at it. Less powerful WP's may well handle their less powerful tasks better, but a simpler program makes it easier to write a simpler interface. No arguing apples and oranges: if the program doesn't do what Word 3.0 can do to a significant degree, you can't use it to knock Word. And no vaporware need apply]]] chuq (have fun..... heh-heh) Chuq Von Rospach chuq@sun.COM Delphi: CHUQ Now, where did my ex-wife put my Fairy Dust?