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From: zardoz@apple.UUCP (Phil Wayne)
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Subject: Re: ATTENTION ALL MICRO USERS!!! FCC INFORMATION TAX AHEAD!!
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Date: Mon, 22-Jun-87 15:32:35 EDT
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Posted: Mon Jun 22 15:32:35 1987
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In article <2315@hoptoad.uucp> sunny@hoptoad.UUCP (David Kirsten) writes:
>ANY Taxation of ANY communications is a violation of your
>constitutional right to FREEdom of speech.  

Oh, piffle. Taxation of communications happens all the time. Radio, Televeision,
newspapers all pay taxes, and (indirectly) you do also, unless you never use
any of those commodities.

>Refuse to have your constitutional rights violated.  We legally live in
>a constitutional republic, not a democracy. 

There is a non sequitur if ever etc. A constitutional republic means that
if your *ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES* deceide to tax you, you are taxed. In a
democracy you could (theoretically) have a right (moral or otherwise) not
to pay taxes, but not in a republic. 

>Don't let those clones in Washington get away with their continued attempts
>to invalidate and obsolete the constitution.  

Excuse me? I got out my constitution and couldn't find the place it says
they can't tax what happens on a telephone line. Could you quote the passage
for the rest of us?

>BTW... I've heard The Phone Company will honor your refusals to pay
>taxes on your phone bill.  Just send in the correct amount
>less any taxes they charged you with the statement that they
>are in violation of your right to free speech.

Errrr, not quite. You can refuse to pay the excise tax, and they (probably
, but not certainly) won't bother you. The excise tax goes to pay for the
war machine, and has *NOTHING* to do with communication at all. I have a good
many Quaker friends who would set you very straight very quickly on that one.


Do not let the above comments make you think I like the idea for forking over
to uncle to talk on the phone (that's what the end result would come to, not
very far down the road) but let us fight with logic and good sense, and not
fight with ourself. Information is power, but GIGO, OK?

BTW, on a $40.00 phone bill, the excise tax would be about a quarter (that is
25 cents), so non payment is more of a moral stand than putting any crimp in
the pentagon war machine.

... Any opions you find annoying or wrong-headed in the above were obviously
... line glitches. I never said any of this, any my employer doesn't even
... know I have opinions.