Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!uwvax!uwmacc!hobbes!root From: root@hobbes.UUCP (John Plocher) Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix Subject: Huh? Message-ID: <141@hobbes.UUCP> Date: Thu, 2-Jul-87 03:12:13 EDT Article-I.D.: hobbes.141 Posted: Thu Jul 2 03:12:13 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 3-Jul-87 05:47:49 EDT References: <143@lakesys.UUCP> Reply-To: root@hobbes.UUCP (John Plocher) Followup-To: comp.unix.xenix Distribution: na Organization: U of Wisconsin - Madison Spanish Department Lines: 47 +---- Steven Goodman writes the following in article <143@lakesys.UUCP> ---- | | Xenix passes the SVID standards, thus making it a | System V OS with another name. As far as I can see Xenix is a full | implimentation of System V with some extras ... | To be abit more accurate on the naming of Xenix one might call | it: Xenix System V Release 2. | -- | Steven Goodman +---- Does SVID address libraries? Xenix (By IBM for the AT) has no terminfo (termcap instead), incompatable header files, and a non-System 5 compiling environment (ie, it is a mix of what someone thought was the best of BSD and the best of Sys5. I could never be sure which system I was on. Makefiles which assumed either Sys5 or BSD didn't work correctly. I used it for 6 months before giving up on it. EVERY program I tried to compile needed modification - It wasn't quite System 5 and it wasn't quite BSD. I de-installed Xenix and brought up Microport System5. ALL the programs I had problems with under Xenix now compiled cleanly! (This was using the SAME base source code) What programs, you ask? News 2.10.x & 2.11, Larn, Hack, RCS... Hell, even uucp was broken. It only would allow full connections to other Xenix systems. Only after I changed to Sys5 did IBM inform us that there were problems with uucp... The cron system was all screwed up: The manuals were from BSD cron, the /etc/cron program was for Sys5 (indiv. crontabs) and the example crontabs on disk were BSD. Please tell me that this is just in IBM's port of Xenix - then I won't have this bad taste in my mouth forever! These problems have probibly been fixed by now, or at least worked around. I don't mean to flame (too much :-), but from my experiance with IBM's Xenix for the AT, I can't agree that it "is System 5". Sorry. John It did have a good point: It came with refer, diction, and style. I sure wish S5r2 did! -- * * * * Note email address change as of 7/1/87 * * * * John Plocher UUCP: !uwvax!geowhiz!uwspan!plocher ============== Internet: plocher%uwspan.UUCP@uwvax.cs.Wisc.EDU FidoNet: 121/0 BITNET: uwvax!geowhiz!uwspan!plocher@psuvax1