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From: ken@hpcvlo.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: X for Morons (or, Anybody Got a Tutorial)?
Message-ID: <3940016@hpcvlo.HP.COM>
Date: Mon, 15-Jun-87 15:41:17 EDT
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Posted: Mon Jun 15 15:41:17 1987
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> There was an X tutorial that came with Xray, the toolkit HP donated to
> the world. Unfortunately it doesn't format with -ms or -me.  It seems
> to use in-house macros. Would HP consider releasing the macros or
> releasing documentation that uses standard macros? I, for one, would be
> grateful to have something I can point novice users to, instead of
> having to tell them to ask an experienced X user.
> 
> Ken
>
The 'Tutorial' you refer to is formated with -mm macros.  Admitedly
not a BSD standard, but a memorandum macros are a BELL standard.  MIT
shipped the printed documentation along with their tape if you bought
it from MIT.

The documentation is hardly an X tutorial.  There is an initial
overview section that has a sample hello world program.  This was
intended to allow people an initial success without tons of detail.
The following sections are essentially an Xray manual.  This is not
what anyone wants if the need to understand an X feature.  I assure
you that if HP had an X tutorial that we would have an easy way of
providing it to not only you but all our customers.

I would also suggest that an X tutorial effort would perhaps better be
expended on Xv11 when such a beast is available.

		-Ken "just another X hacker" Bronstein
		 {hplabs}!hp-pcd!ken
		 Corvallis, Oregon