Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!utcsri!uthub!ecf!me!utradio!utmanitou!lsuc!mnetor!seismo!rutgers!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!hoptoad!gnu From: gnu@hoptoad.UUCP Newsgroups: news.groups,news.admin Subject: Re: New groups coming in without newgroup? Message-ID: <2262@hoptoad.uucp> Date: Fri, 5-Jun-87 07:18:28 EDT Article-I.D.: hoptoad.2262 Posted: Fri Jun 5 07:18:28 1987 Date-Received: Mon, 8-Jun-87 05:35:49 EDT References: <336@acornrc.UUCP> <6933@mimsy.UUCP> <6341@garnet.BBN.COM> Organization: Nebula Consultants in San Francisco Lines: 37 Xref: utgpu news.groups:887 news.admin:445 Some Arpanet sites have started a new distribution "inet" and are passing around a bunch of the common mailing lists via NNTP, as newsgroups. This should reduce the load on the Arpanet and make it easier for folks there to separate personal mail and mailing list mail, as we Usenetters do with the mail/news distinction. Erik Fair (fair@berkeley.edu, or ucbvax!fair) is coordinating this process. If your site is receiving messages in strange new groups that you've never heard of (typically these messages go into the "junk" newsgroup), AND the "Distribution:" line of the messages says "inet", send Erik a message including the header of one sample article. Probably there are just a few Internet sites where these messages are "leaking" out by accident, and examining the headers will quickly point out the culprit(s). I also recommend notifying the news feed you received the messages from; they should not be feeding you the "inet" distribution, and if they aren't on the Internet, they shouldn't be receiving it from THEIR feed either. If you *like* the messages you are seeing, you could send a message to the person who maintains the mailing list (see news.lists for the periodically posted List of Lists). It's probably best to get on the list by email until the "inet" distribution settles down and people figure out how to gateway the stuff out to interested folks who aren't on the Internet. I recommend that no matter what your site, if your sys file lines for feeds have "all" specified, that you replace "all" with: net,comp,news,sci,rec,misc,soc,talk,world, and whatever local distributions are relevant, e.g. for me it's na,usa,ba,ca This is what will plug the leaks (or any future leaks that might occur.) -- Copyright 1987 John Gilmore; you may redistribute only if your recipients may. (This is an effort to bend Stargate to work with Usenet, not against it.) {sun,ptsfa,lll-crg,ihnp4,ucbvax}!hoptoad!gnu gnu@ingres.berkeley.edu