Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!mcvax!ukc!stl!dww From: dww@stl.stc.co.uk (David Wright) Newsgroups: news.admin Subject: Re: rn problem with news 2.11 Message-ID: <550@acer.stl.stc.co.uk> Date: Fri, 5-Jun-87 20:57:46 EDT Article-I.D.: acer.550 Posted: Fri Jun 5 20:57:46 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 10-Jun-87 03:20:39 EDT References: <819@mouska.UUCP> Reply-To: dww@stl.UUCP (David Wright) Organization: STL,Harlow,UK. Lines: 28 In article <819@mouska.UUCP> glee@cognos.uucp (Godfrey Lee) writes: >In 2.11, the directory was created with the first article. >It seems that rn (4.1) has trouble with this. If rn sees the new newsgroup >without the new directory, then it does not recognize it as a valid newsgroup, >but it remembers not to ask the user the next time, so even when articles start >to arrive, the user does not get notified. >Does anyone know of a fix for this? This news behaviour annoys me too. Some people suggest that the solution is for the group creator to follow the new group control message with a posting giving the group charter, which creates the directory, but I'm told that the message sometimes arrives ahead of the create so causing even more confusion. What I do is to create the directory manually every time I get told that a new group has been created (our system is set to mail News Admin (me) for such control messages). When we had a large number of new groups created recently I edited the mail headers into a script of 'mkdir's. While this fix works, it is a bit of a bind, and of course it fails if I'm too busy to fiddle with creating directories before the other users start to read news. To the net maintainers: please fix BOTH news 2.11 to create those directories, and rn to treat a non-existant directory exactly like an empty one, in the next issue; then this problem will be solved. -- Regards, David Wright STL, London Road, Harlow, Essex CM17 9NA, U.K. dww@stl.stc.co.uk ...seismo!mcvax!ukc!stl!dww PSI%234237100122::DWW