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From: amos@nsta.UUCP (Amos Shapir)
Newsgroups: news.admin
Subject: Re: EndOfSourcesList+AnnouncementOfNetOmbudsman -- communication?
Message-ID: <306@nsta.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 1-Jul-87 15:43:32 EDT
Article-I.D.: nsta.306
Posted: Wed Jul  1 15:43:32 1987
Date-Received: Fri, 3-Jul-87 02:11:24 EDT
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Reply-To: amos%nsta@nsc.com (Amos Shapir)
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Organization: National Semiconductor (Israel) Ltd. Home of the 32532
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Summary: Back to Square One
Hdate: 5 Tamuz 5747


This is the way the moderation battle has been going on, as viewed from
here - a non-bb, but paying, site:

Problem: The sources group (there was only one In the Beginning) becomes
 too big, bb sites who pay the bill are threatened with discontinued
 service if this goes on.
Solution: Use the moderation mechanism. (Which was originally designed to enable
 sites and users with limited time and communication resources to participate
 in the net anyway).

A new Problem: Webber's suggestion anulls any attempt to use moderated
 groups to reduce net traffic. Back to square one.
The new solution: If this catches on, the friendly bb administrators
 will have to put Webber in their global kill files to try and stop
 this nonsense. Unfriendly ones will just have to stop propagating
 these groups altogether. (Actually, Weemba's volunteering as an 'ombudsman'
 makes the former easier, since the Brahms Gang is in many admins' kill
 files already).

What I did not understand from Webber's latest article is what he suggests
as a solution to the net traffic problems (he does not seem to be fond
of the 'alternate backbone' idea). Another thing: if he calls for
communication, why didn't he discuss his idea with the moderators and
bb admins first to find out *why* they manage the bb the way they do?
-- 
	Amos Shapir
National Semiconductor (Israel)
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