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From: lyndon@ncc.UUCP
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Subject: Re: uunet access from Canada
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Date: Sat, 4-Jul-87 15:15:28 EDT
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Summary: Can->USA->Can is not illegal

In article <824@looking.UUCP>, brad@looking.UUCP (Brad Templeton) writes:
> 
> You underestimate the capacity of the Canadian government for getting
> in the way of people trying to do cross-border business.
> 
> I think it's still illegal, for example, to ship data from point A in
> Canada to point B in canada via point C in the USA.  Usenet has always
> been semi-illegal because of this.

Not true. There are already carriers operating out of Washington that
pick up traffic from Vancouver and route it to Ontario via the U.S.
Alberta Gov't Telephones has been bitching about this at recent rate
hearings.

> Datapac is actually quite cheap when used properly.  People like Compuserve
> and Genie could save their customers a fortune by getting a direct Datapac
> connection.  (They put lines for their own net in Toronto, they could connect
> these lines to datapac and get a whole new slew of customers if they would
> just think about it!)

Has anyone investigated the new Datapac "dialout service" for setting up
UUCP links. The idea is that entering a certain Datapac address will
connect you to a modem in [Toronto, Vancouver, Edmonton] which then
prompts you for a local telephone number to dial.Trouble is it only
runs at 1200 baud (on the dialout), and only supports 7 bits even
parity (can you believe it?) 

> One answer here is to put a UUNET relay in Canada, connected to datapac.
> Have the relay pay whatever charge is cheapest (9600 bps, tymnet etc.)
> to get all the stuff on demand from uunet, and then let people dial in
> via datapac, or direct in the local calling region.  (thus it probably makes
> sense to put the Canadian uunet relay in T.O.)

Oh come on! Why don't we all just move to Toronto and eliminate long
distance completely.

> UUNET is an effort of U.S. user groups, why not have /usr/group/cdn or
> whoever fund a node.  In theory, the hardware and X.25 software can
> be had from the US UUNET site.  SMOP, perhaps.

Whatever happened to "buy Canadian" :-)