Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!im4u!swrinde!petro!ssbn!bill From: bill@ssbn.UUCP Newsgroups: news.stargate,news.misc,comp.org.usenix Subject: Re: Stargate Message-ID: <306@ssbn.UUCP> Date: Tue, 9-Jun-87 08:42:18 EDT Article-I.D.: ssbn.306 Posted: Tue Jun 9 08:42:18 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 13-Jun-87 03:48:02 EDT References: <109@stargate.UUCP> <3254@well.UUCP> Reply-To: bill@ssbn.UUCP (Bill Kennedy) Distribution: na Organization: W.L. Kennedy Jr. & Associates, Pipe Creek, TX Lines: 30 Xref: utgpu news.stargate:166 news.misc:474 comp.org.usenix:233 Brad made some interesting observations regarding the cable industry implications. His (and several others) signature stimulated me to clear up another misunderstanding, the one regarding redistribution. Realize and understand that the mentality of the satellite carrier is cable TV oriented. From their point of view the redistribution of usenet from a Stargate site is the logical equivalent of teeing into your cable and pulling a wire next door. Everything they do has a "socket" or "subscriber" mentality. I'm quite sure that the Stargate people would not object to redistribution if they could convince the satellite carrier otherwise. The other similar services broadcast by the same carrier have equally restrictive provisions in their agreements. If you doubt the opportunistic and sometimes repressive nature of the cable industry, think again. I can't get cable, I have a dish. It took a fair amount of maneuvering, by the Stargate people, to convince the satellite carrier not to pay a "royalty" to the nearest cable company for my subscription. The premium services I subscribe to do, indeed, send money to the nearest cable company for my subscription rather than giving me a break on the rate. Program originators claim that it is a necessary "courtesy" to keep cable companies happy. This has nothing to do directly with Stargate but it gives you an idea of the mentality it must deal with when trying to get the service going. Apologies form the length, I am just weary with and frustrated about the amount of heat those guys take when they are working hard (and for free) to drag us kicking and screaming into another generation of service. -- Bill Kennedy {cbosgd | ihnp4!petro | sun!texsun!rrm}!ssbn!bill