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From: mcb@lll-tis.UUCP
Newsgroups: news.software.b
Subject: Re: problems with rn (Ultrix)
Message-ID: <21545@lll-tis.arpa>
Date: Wed, 17-Jun-87 18:29:11 EDT
Article-I.D.: lll-tis.21545
Posted: Wed Jun 17 18:29:11 1987
Date-Received: Fri, 19-Jun-87 05:33:31 EDT
References: <11@bnl.UUCP>
Reply-To: mcb@lll-tis.arpa (Michael C. Berch)
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore CA
Lines: 50
Keywords: rn, cbreak, Ultrix-32
Summary: Rn problems under Ultrix 1.2

In article <11@bnl.UUCP> abrams@bnl.UUCP (Karl L. Abrams) writes:
> 	I am running version 2.10.2 of news on an a Vax 11/780 under Ultix 1.2,
> and am attempting to install rn. The following problems are occuring:
> 
> 1. A carraige return is required after all commands, not just the multi-
> character commands, as stated in the man document. Rn seems to be responding 
> correctly to the commands, but the inconvenience of 2 keystrokes for every 
> command is a pain. Rn doesn't seem to be operating in the cbreak mode, as 
> advertized.

I believe this is a problem with Ultrix rather than rn, as Ultrix has
some non-standard BSD stuff in the tty include files (ostensibly to
support System V-derived programs). When I tried to compile rn (the
nntp-client version "rrn", actually) under Ultrix-32M rev. 1.2A on a
MicroVAX II, cpp complained about redefinition of constants from
<termio.h>. The resulting binary did not run in cbreak mode, causing
problems identical to those Mr. Abrams describes.

The solution is to undefine TERMIO in config.h. In this case rn
will include <sgtty.h> and use the old stty(2) calls instead of 
including <termio.h> and using appropriate ioctl()s. This will work in
Ultrix, and it correctly does cbreak now.

> 2. When I attempt to post a follow-up article from between news groups I get:
> 
> >******** End of newsgroups--what next? [npq] f
> >                                             ^
> >Type h for help.
> 
> not a posting of an original article, as documented.

This seems normal to me. Neither the man page nor the help screen that you 
get when typing "h" in newsgroup selection mode mentions "f" as an 
appropriate command in this mode. Where is it "documented"? (older
version?)

> When I attempt to post a follow-up article from within an article I get:
> > [ ...]
> >
> >Are you absolutely sure that you want to do this? [ny] y
> >(re-entering cbreak mode)
> >(Mail) End of article 404 (of 407)--what next? [npq] 
> and no follow-up article is posted. The same things happen if 'F' is typed.

This is probably related to the Ultrix/cbreak problem discussed above.
Try recompiling with TERMIO #undef'ed and test followups.

Michael C. Berch 
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