Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!ut-sally!husc6!cmcl2!philabs!aecom!werner From: werner@aecom.YU.EDU (Craig Werner) Newsgroups: sci.bio Subject: Re: Life Classification ...further comments Message-ID: <1117@aecom.YU.EDU> Date: Sat, 6-Jun-87 22:32:26 EDT Article-I.D.: aecom.1117 Posted: Sat Jun 6 22:32:26 1987 Date-Received: Thu, 11-Jun-87 03:01:57 EDT References: <9543@duke.cs.duke.edu> <1125@ius2.cs.cmu.edu> <701@edge.UUCP> <1302@sigi.Colorado.EDU> Organization: Albert Einstein Coll. of Med., NY Lines: 23 Keywords: Hanahan Transformation In article <1302@sigi.Colorado.EDU>, pell@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Anthony Pelletier) writes: > Even Doug admits that the protocol works that much better only on the > DH cell lines. For reasons that have never been clear to me, he does get > the protocol to work on many other cell lines better than I (or anyone I know) > have been able. Something in his body temperature or "karma" I guess. > It is well established that HB101 will not stand up to the Hanahan proceedure. > It even says so in the "Joy of Cloning." I have gotten Hanahan transformation to work with HB101, as well as JM101. JM83 failed miserably. I now use DH5alpha, as it has the lacZ complementation of the JM series, but comes hyped. On my best day, I got about 20% of Hanahan's maximum yield and that was fresh. Normally, I don't care, and use it frozen, and I get 5-10% of theoretical. (Frozen also omits DTT) Nowadays I clone into phage. It's much better for my purposes, and it is much more efficient by anybody's standards, which is 10-100 fold. -- Craig Werner (MD/PhD '91) !philabs!aecom!werner (1935-14E Eastchester Rd., Bronx NY 10461, 212-931-2517) "If I don't see you soon, I'll see you later."