Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rochester!udel!gatech!mit-eddie!husc6!sri-unix!ctnews!pyramid!prls!philabs!aecom!werner From: werner@aecom.YU.EDU (Craig Werner) Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech,sci.bio Subject: Re: Knowledge and the Academics Message-ID: <1142@aecom.YU.EDU> Date: Mon, 15-Jun-87 01:04:29 EDT Article-I.D.: aecom.1142 Posted: Mon Jun 15 01:04:29 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 21-Jun-87 05:40:25 EDT References: <16224@brahms.Berkeley.EDU> <160200002@inmet> <2172@mmintl.UUCP> <123@snark.UUCP> Organization: Albert Einstein Coll. of Med., NY Lines: 58 Xref: mnetor sci.philosophy.tech:193 sci.bio:448 I'd like to point out the difference between heritable and genetic (or inheritable). The number of digits a person has is determined by genetic factors, but that number has a very low heritability. Skin color in the United States is very heritable. In Sweden and Japan, it has a very low heritability. What gives? Heritability is not a measure of genetics. It is a measure of variation. It is roughly defined as: h = Genetic variation / total phenotypic variation where total variation is (genetic variation + environmental variation + error of measure) Ergo, the number of digits, a highly genetically determined trait, but with the majority of variation due to loss of digits by accident, shows low heritability. Since skin color variation in the US (mixture of African descent and on the opposite extreme Scandanavian descent, and everyone in between) is extremely genetically determined, heritability is high. Whereas in Japan, where the gene pool is much more limited, skin color is more determined by whether one lives in the city or works as a farmer. The observed phenotypic variability is due almost solely to number of hours spent in the sun, hence heritability very low. IQ scores are heritable trait. No less so than height or weight. It is not perfectly heritable, and in fact, it's heritability varies among population groups: it is higher in whites than in blacks in the US, presumably because there is more environmental variation between black communites. Furthermore, as first pointed out by Jensen, attempts to improve the environment will, paradoxically to some, make IQ scores MORE heritable, since they will eliminate environmental variation from the denominator without touching the numerator. While many would argue this point, that means in an ideal system, the best possible environment for every person, that IQ would be 100% heritable. Stephen J. Gould makes a very good case against those who equate heritability with genetic determinism. Unfortunately, he makes the same mistake in most of his rebuttal arguments. So, I ask you, before comitting yourself to the argument, think several times about this definition of heritability. It is definitely a non-trivial point. Maybe I should dig out my old IQ series, update it, and repost it. Maybe not? Feedback is requested. -- Craig Werner (MD/PhD '91) !philabs!aecom!werner (1935-14E Eastchester Rd., Bronx NY 10461, 212-931-2517) "Why is it that half the calories is twice the price?"