Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!husc6!hao!gatech!mit-eddie!ll-xn!ames!amdahl!pyramid!voder!kontron!cramer From: cramer@kontron.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,sci.bio Subject: Re: Stupidity about intelligence (or genetics) Message-ID: <1651@kontron.UUCP> Date: Mon, 22-Jun-87 15:25:49 EDT Article-I.D.: kontron.1651 Posted: Mon Jun 22 15:25:49 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 24-Jun-87 06:42:25 EDT References: <126@snark.UUCP> <3728@sunybcs.UUCP> Organization: Kontron Electronics, Mt. View, CA Lines: 47 Xref: mnetor talk.politics.misc:3198 sci.bio:466 > In article <126@snark.UUCP> eric@snark.UUCP (Eric S. Raymond) writes: > . I *am* a fascinated collector of Damned > .Things -- facts that the sciences (for which I have enormous respect) > .cannot acknowledge for political or social reasons. Biology is full of them. > . > When you present such a collection, you have to know a whole lot to defend it. > I have great respect for those who collect, and present, and can defend. > > .Here's another one (). Do you know that matings between Kalahari > .Bushmen and non-Bushmen are generally infertile? > . > Most matings between humans are infertile. It's because human females > don't go into heat, so when they mate they're mostly just fooling. Everyone knows that; I doubt that's what the original poster meant. I was so surprised by this claim, however, that I went home and dug through the Encyclopedia Britannica to see if there was any mention of this infertility. I found nothing. I did find something really amazing. The Bushmen and Hottentots are closely related -- together they form the Capoid race. A study of Hottentots (Bushmen not yet studied) found 24% had more, and 23% had fewer, than 46 chromosomes. That's a total of 47% have a non-standard number of chromosomes. Can anyone see why there might be a fertility problem? > Alin Sangeap SUNY Buffalo Computer Science > CSNET: alin@Buffalo.CSNET BITNET: alin@sunybcs.Bitnet > UUCP: {bbncca,decvax,dual,rocksvax,watmath,sbcs}!sunybcs!alin > NSA: please decode all secret cryptography ciphers; best of wishes, A. My first reaction to the claim above about Damned Facts was, "Come on. This sounds like a conspiracy." But after reading the Britannica article, I'm a little amazed that the presentation of biology, genetics, and chromosomal abnormalities in high school biology doesn't mention a little "detail" like the Hottentot peculiarity. We learned that humans have 46 chromosomes. We learned about chromosomal abnormalities like Down's Syndrome, and Klinefelter's males. But we didn't learn about a population where HALF of the study group were not 46 chromosomes. I'm beginning to wonder how much high school science classes are tailored for political reasons. Clayton E. Cramer