Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!columbia!rutgers!sri-spam!mordor!lll-tis!ptsfa!hoptoad!academ!uhnix1!uhnix2!bchso From: bchso@uhnix2.UUCP (Dan Davison) Newsgroups: sci.bio Subject: More on natural transformation Message-ID: <401@uhnix2.UUCP> Date: Tue, 16-Jun-87 23:19:04 EDT Article-I.D.: uhnix2.401 Posted: Tue Jun 16 23:19:04 1987 Date-Received: Thu, 25-Jun-87 06:29:32 EDT Organization: University of Houston Lines: 22 Keywords: CaCl2, philosophy [List of organisms that can be transformed] >>Gee, Sean, I consider this a handful. But this is a difference in >>philosophy, since the mammalian cell culture transformation you cite >>would never be the same transformation as bacterial, *to me*. >Why not? I don't mean 'growth transformation' or 'neoplastic >transformation', Understood. >I'm just referring to the uptake and integration >of exogenous DNA fragments. Because the conditions under which mammalian cells uptake DNA, and under which E. coli do the same are not very likely to occur in nature. The Gram-positive style of transformation can occur in soil, whereas the calcium chloride bath that E. coli requires is less likely to be be found in its natural environment. dan davison/ bchs6@uhupvm1.bitnet/ davison@bionet-20.arpa / davison@bnl.arpa uucp: ...rice!academ!uhnix1!uhnix2!bchso "Of all the things I've lost I miss my mind the most"