Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rutgers!sri-spam!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!jade!violet.berkeley.edu!lagache From: lagache@violet.berkeley.edu (Edouard Lagache) Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech Subject: Two Objections to Vacuum Genesis Message-ID: <4080@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Wed, 24-Jun-87 12:53:54 EDT Article-I.D.: jade.4080 Posted: Wed Jun 24 12:53:54 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 27-Jun-87 07:46:21 EDT Sender: usenet@jade.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: lagache@violet.berkeley.edu (Edouard Lagache) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 50 Keywords: Big Bang, Vacuum Genesis, Alternative Universes I am rather disappointed with the response on my postings related to Vacuum Genesis. It seemed to me to be a far more interesting and fertile ground for philosophical discussion than it turned out to be. Since no one exactly came up with my two objections to Vacuum Genesis, let me get the cat out the of the bag. Physical objection: Mathew P. Wiener came closest to describing this objection in his note of 6/22/87 when he reminded everyone that space-time itself was created in the Big Bang (according to current theory). The fundemental premise of Vacuum Genesis is that a huge particle was created as a consequence of the uncertainty principle. However, the uncertainty principle is only known to be true of our universe (and space-time). For Vacuum Genesis to work, that other universe would also have to support the uncertainty principle - why should it? All the physical information what our theories are based on are data collected in our universe (and space-time). In effect Vacuum Genesis posuluates another universe just like ours in order to explain our universe. Since that universe needs to be explained, that line of reasoning looks very much like an infinite regress. Philosophical objection: People did pick up of this one. Some of the people who suggested it include Todd Moody, and Frank Adams. The problem is that while Vacuum Genesis explains how the universe works it doesn't offer any reason WHY it works. Specifically it doesn't explain why the our universe can be described by differential equations. No physical explanation can explain why physics works. According to Frank Adams, no explanation will ever do; other philosophers are somewhat more optimistic (myself included). I my opinion this theory is an example of how philosophers can contribute to science. Neither of these objections are particularly difficult to come up with (although harder than I thought they were). Yet, the objections would be very difficult to find for those emersed in physical theory. Philosophy cannot afford to idlely watch the scientists at work. Scientists do make philosophical mistakes, and it is up to philosophers to set the record straight. Edouard Lagache School of Education U.C. Berkeley lagache@violet.berkeley.edu