Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!ucla-cs!ames!oliveb!sun!rdh From: rdh@sun.UUCP Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech Subject: Re: Physical objection to Vacuum Genesis (Try II) Message-ID: <22278@sun.uucp> Date: Mon, 29-Jun-87 01:50:53 EDT Article-I.D.: sun.22278 Posted: Mon Jun 29 01:50:53 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 30-Jun-87 01:58:53 EDT References: <4148@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> Reply-To: rdh@sun.UUCP (Robert Hartman) Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View Lines: 12 Keywords: Space-Time, Alternative universes, Hubble, Relativity I agree that there's a fundamental difference (physically and philosophically) between the concept of vacuum as empty-space-between- objects, and vacuum as a state-of-universal-nonbeing. If vacuum-genesis postulates the pre-existence of a space-time continuum, albeit one with a vastly different distribution of matter-energy, then I'd have to agree with your objection that it doesn't explain the origin of the universe. If it ONLY explains the forces driving the current distribution of energy-matter, that's still quite valuable. By the way, thanks for trying again. The second try seemed much clearer to me. -bob.