Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!mcnc!xanth!kent From: kent@xanth.UUCP (Kent Paul Dolan) Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech Subject: Re: Physical objection to Vacuum Genesis (Try II) Message-ID: <1461@xanth.UUCP> Date: Tue, 30-Jun-87 13:05:49 EDT Article-I.D.: xanth.1461 Posted: Tue Jun 30 13:05:49 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 1-Jul-87 06:50:00 EDT References: <4148@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> <8706281022.AA18649@brahms.Berkeley.EDU> <4158@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> Reply-To: kent@xanth.UUCP (Kent Paul Dolan) Organization: Old Dominion University, Norfolk Va. Lines: 36 Keywords: multiple inflations Summary: We may have started as pretty small potatoes You guys seem to be arguing back and forth on the basis that this universe started out as some hugely energetic particle. Is this necessarily so? Inflation theory suggests that a "crystalization" or "precipitation" occurred as a phase change from one vacuum to another, adding tremendously to the energy of the system (our proto-universe). We still can't see anything before 10**-43 second or so. Who's to say that there weren't several prior inflations? Our universe may have started out as nothing more impressive than an electron, uncountable numbers of which boil into and out of existance each second in miniscule portions of our vacuum. Perhaps our minimal sized particle happened to be unusually long lived enough to undergo a first inflation, and things cascaded from there. Eduardo, you need to go back and look at some elementary probablity theory. Any event with non-zero probability (the usual example is all the air in a room rushing to one side) will take place with probability unity over an infinite timespan, which an empty universe certainly had to come up with its first particle. Kent. -- Kent Paul Dolan, LCDR, NOAA, Retired; ODU MSCS grad student // Yet UUCP : kent@xanth.UUCP or ...{sun,harvard}!xanth!kent // Another CSNET : kent@odu.csnet ARPA : kent@xanth.cs.odu.edu \\ // Happy USPost: P.O. Box 1559, Norfolk, Virginia 23501-1559 \// Amigan! Voice : (804) 587-7760 -=][> Last one to Ceres is a rotten egg! -=][> I code reactor power plant control in C. I add "count_of_recent_alarms" to "count_of_rods_to_lift". C is weakly typed; the compiler doesn't notice. A major coolant valve sticks, a spate of alarms occur. All die. Oh, the embarrassment!