Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!husc6!cca!g-rh From: g-rh@cca.CCA.COM (Richard Harter) Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech Subject: On denumerability (preliminary) Message-ID: <17406@cca.CCA.COM> Date: Sat, 4-Jul-87 16:19:48 EDT Article-I.D.: cca.17406 Posted: Sat Jul 4 16:19:48 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 4-Jul-87 20:45:34 EDT Reply-To: g-rh@cca.UUCP (Richard Harter) Distribution: world Organization: Computer Corp. of America, Cambridge, MA Lines: 53 Some time ago I started a discussion in then net.math about denumerability which I would like to revive. Let us start with the Skolem-Lowenheim "paradox" which states that every formal system has a countable model. The paradox is that in ZF the continuum is supposed to be uncountable. How one deals with this "paradox" is, a matter of one's tastes in the philosophy of Mathematics. I propose to deal with it by rejecting the notion of absolute nondenumberability, and, in the process, by claiming that Cantor's treatment of countability is inadequate. As a preliminary let me define some terms: First of all I will use "set" uniformly for any aggregate which is assumed to exist in a particular theory at hand. I.e. I will use the word set for both the sets and classes of two sorted theories (ML, NB, my own H2, etc.). In reference to any multi-sorted theory an appropriate modifier will be used (e.g. Zermelo sets for ZF or NB). If I am discussing a particular theory and a meta theory about it and the meta theory has sets which are do not exist within the theory I will use meta-set or something equivalent. Secondly, I will be speaking of several different usages of the word "countability", so I will prefix each such usage with a qualifier, e.g. Cantor-set-countability: A set is Cantor-set-countable if there is a function (in the sense of a set of ordered pairs) which is one-to-one map from the integers to the set. Cantor-function-countability: A set is Cantor-function-countable if there is a logical function (in the sense of a two place wff) which is a one-to-one map from the integers to the set. Cantor-couability: A set is Cantor-countable if is Cantor-set- countable or Cantor-function-countable, or both. Subset-countability: A set is subset-countable if it is a subset of a Cantor-countable set. My interpretation of the Skolem-Lowenheim paradox is as follows: The specification of the Universe (of Logic and Mathematics) is Cantor-countable. The Universe and the Continuum are subset- countability; however the Continuum is not Cantor-countable. In consequence the entire Cantor programme of transfinite cardinals is, I believe, ill-conceived. Cantor cardinals do measure in some sense, a richness of structure. They do not measure "size". The notion of "large cardinals" rests on a fundamental confusion between different notions of "size". So much for the preliminaries. More to follow. -- Richard Harter, SMDS Inc. [Disclaimers not permitted by company policy.] [I set company policy.]