Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!mcvax!unido!laura!hmm From: hmm@laura.UUCP (Martin Mosner) Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk Subject: Re: SMALLTALK on Atari - How about Amiga? Message-ID: <70@laura.UUCP> Date: Sun, 19-Jul-87 12:46:22 EDT Article-I.D.: laura.70 Posted: Sun Jul 19 12:46:22 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 19-Jul-87 20:44:45 EDT References: <231@philtis.UUCP> <122700005@exunido.UUCP> <793@unicus.UUCP> Reply-To: hmm@unido.UUCP (Hans-Martin Mosner) Organization: University of Dortmund, W-Germany Lines: 38 In article <793@unicus.UUCP> craig@unicus.UUCP (Craig D. Hubley) writes: > >Since there's a PD Smalltalk for Atari, I wonder if there's a similar >implementation for the Amiga, or at least sources in some common language >such as C available. Any word from those who ported the Atari version? The Little Smalltalk system is written in C, as far as I know. I have seen it on an Amiga at the Hannover fair where we showed our port, and I was not so impressed. I did not have the time to dig into it, though. The guy at the Commodore booth who showed it to me did not have a manual, so I could not examine the predefined classes & methods. But it looked as if there were some nice things missing, like the Fraction & LargeInteger classes. I don't remember how complete the Collection classes were. ParcPlace Systems Smalltalk-80 (the real thing) could be ported to the Amiga quite easily, though (about 1 week to get a first version running). I don't know if it's in the works somewhere. > >With hardware graphics support, a blitter, etc., plus the ability to support >8 meg of RAM or so, the Amiga would make a great low-end Smalltalk engine. Yup, but Little Smalltalk did not use all that fancy stuff. Text only... > >With 640x400 32-levels-of-grayscale (or color, if you can handle the flicker >and the bucks) support on the Amiga 500, one ought finally to be able to >wean the home hackers off of BASIC (icch). You should try to contact Professor Timothy Budd, who is the author of Little Smalltalk. I think if someone puts some work into a windowing interface and adds the missing classes, it could be a nice system. I don't know Mr. Budds address, but as far as I know, he's at the University of Arizona. Good luck ! Disclaimer: All I know about Little Smalltalk is from the 10-minute experience at the Hannover fair. It's quite possible that the system is far more complete by now... Hans-Martin Mosner University of Dortmund D