Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!utcsri!utegc!utai!ubc-vision!alberta!auvax!tech From: tech@auvax.UUCP Newsgroups: can.general Subject: Re: A Canadian Unix Network? Message-ID: <292@auvax.UUCP> Date: Tue, 11-Aug-87 15:00:28 EDT Article-I.D.: auvax.292 Posted: Tue Aug 11 15:00:28 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 12-Aug-87 05:49:04 EDT References: <1987Aug4.235121.22896@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu> Distribution: can Organization: Athabasca U., Alberta, Canada Lines: 44 Summary: lets talk about packet radio > Other topics were also suggested, such as variants of Stargate and > packet radio. The premise that Stargate was developed upon was that > Taras Pryjma > uucp: taras@gpu.utcs In addition to the flakiness of packet radio comes the question, what medium will you use to send it? Most packet radio work is being done by amateur radio operators who are making great strides forward - the present technology among the technical elite is tcp/ip on IBM-PC's using vhf multihop networks and some satelite work. Using high technical skill and the willingness to adapt obselete surplus equipment one could set up a tcp/ip packet radio site on 2 metres for under a thousand dollars easily - but computer professionals might be unwilling to do this because they are afraid to face the words obselete, surplus, and (gasp!) the dreaded vacuum tube. Sorry, I couldn't resist a snarky remark. The real problem is more serious. The ITU, DOC, FCC, various GPO regulations state specifically that amateur radio can only be used for non-commercial purposes so somebody has to export the technology and the common carriers aren't the place to go - they have a monopoly and they expect to be paid very well. The General Radio Service regulations (CB to you Americans) used to state that the service could not be used for trivial purposes - it was intended to provide cheap radio communications for small businesses, farms, etc. and personal communications for individuals (which means telling the wife to get the oil changed on the way home etc). Therefore if you were forming a non-profit, non-public network among cooperating instiutions and corporations for the exchange of non confidential information (like usenet) you might be able to justify it. I can't imagine using 27Mhz (56000 baud would be a real bear) but there is a chicken band up in 400 Mhz region some where which would be appropriate. I am not recommending this approach, I am just suggesting that packet radio is a possibility. ********* 73 ********** Richard Loken VE6BSV . **** .. **** Athabasca University .... **** Athabasca, Alberta Canada ..........**** ihnp4!alberta!auvax