Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!ll-xn!ames!amdahl!chuck From: chuck@amdahl.amdahl.com (Charles Simmons) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: What with these Vector's anyways? Message-ID: <11215@amdahl.amdahl.com> Date: Fri, 31-Jul-87 14:10:50 EDT Article-I.D.: amdahl.11215 Posted: Fri Jul 31 14:10:50 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 2-Aug-87 02:12:22 EDT References: <218@astra.necisa.oz> <142700010@tiger.UUCP> Reply-To: chuck@amdahl.UUCP (Charles Simmons) Distribution: world Organization: Amdahl Corp, Sunnyvale CA Lines: 25 Keywords: scalar vs. vectors, benchmarks In article <279@diab.UUCP> pf@.UUCP (Per Fogelstrom) writes: >In article <10956@amdahl.amdahl.com> littauer@amdahl.UUCP (Tom Littauer) writes: >>If the Dhrystone benchmarks are to be believed, this isn't the case. >>The May '87 report shows Cray X-MP at 18,530, and the IBM 3090-200 >>at 31,250. I'd mention our (much faster) machines, but that'd get >>perilously close to advertising :-). >> > >Be serious! Do you really belive in Dhrystone? Okay i do admitt that we don't >have anything better for the moment, but soon i hope. > >What this benchmark really tests is the compilers ability to remove code that >does'nt really do anything. And of course the cpu's ability to handle strings. >Just check the Am29000. The designers put in an instruction just to speed up >this benchmark.... Now what, have we reaced a new point, where cpu's are >designed for the bencmarks instead of vice versa, as it was before ???? > >Per Fogelstrom, Diab Data AB Be serious! Are you really suggesting that the 370 architechture was designed to execute Dhrystone quickly? Also, the portable C compiler that we use on our 5890's doesn't perform any really special optimizations. -- Chuck