Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!bloom-beacon!gatech!amdcad!phil From: phil@amdcad.AMD.COM (Phil Ngai) Newsgroups: comp.arch,comp.unix.wizards,comp.os.misc Subject: Re: Who owns Unix(tm)? (was: Re: Mach, the new standard?) Message-ID: <18019@amdcad.AMD.COM> Date: Sun, 23-Aug-87 14:50:40 EDT Article-I.D.: amdcad.18019 Posted: Sun Aug 23 14:50:40 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 23-Aug-87 23:48:06 EDT References: <1665@ncr-sd.SanDiego.NCR.COM> <8381@utzoo.UUCP> Reply-To: phil@amdcad.UUCP (Phil Ngai) Organization: Advanced Micro Devices Lines: 26 Keywords: Gross overbearing ripoff! Xref: mnetor comp.arch:1881 comp.unix.wizards:3850 comp.os.misc:92 In article <2232@xanth.UUCP> kent@xanth.UUCP (Kent Paul Dolan) writes: >the gall of AT&T >claiming to "own" Unix(tm) really gets to me. At the time Unix was >developed, WITH SUBSCRIBER FUNDS, AT&T was a regulated monopoly, >specifically prohibited from being in the computer business. They were not in the computer business but they needed computers as tools. Thus it seems reasonable for them to work on computers FOR INTERNAL USE. As to the ownership of the Unix (brand) operating system, I imagine they'd argue that the profits from licensing Unix products helps them keep their line charges lower than they would be otherwise so the subscribers ARE deriving benefit from the product they helped fund. Another tack would be to say it was funded by the stockholders, not the subscribers. Operating a business on a cost plus guaranteed profit basis, as most regulated monopolies are, is a bad method anyway, and leads to confusion such as we have here, as well as inefficiencies. -- I speak for myself, not the company. Phil Ngai, {ucbvax,decwrl,allegra}!amdcad!phil or amdcad!phil@decwrl#Kb#Kb#