Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!rutgers!ames!oliveb!sun!scherzo!lyang From: lyang%scherzo@Sun.COM (Larry Yang) Newsgroups: comp.lang.c,comp.arch Subject: Re: Was the 360 badly-designed? (was Re: Compatibility with EBCDIC) Message-ID: <26291@sun.uucp> Date: Fri, 21-Aug-87 22:21:37 EDT Article-I.D.: sun.26291 Posted: Fri Aug 21 22:21:37 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 23-Aug-87 08:17:26 EDT References: <855@tjalk.cs.vu.nl> <2683@hoptoad.uucp> Sender: news@sun.uucp Reply-To: lyang@sun.UUCP (Larry Yang) Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View Lines: 29 Xref: mnetor comp.lang.c:3815 comp.arch:1862 In article <1580@sol.ARPA> crowl@cs.rochester.edu (Lawrence Crowl) writes: >crowl@cs.rochester.EDU (Lawrence Crowl) writes: >>..., are you implying the 360 architecture was badly designed? This claim >>will need VERY good arguments to over-ride 25 years (almost) of success. >[....] >I repeat my statement: one needs VERY good arguments to claim that the 360 >architecture was badly-designed. Anyone care to provide them or refute them? >I have added comp.arch since they are likely to provide interesting input. From what I have heard, one reason for the IBM 360's success was forsight on the part of the designers. They decided that the machine should have 24 address bits. At the time, 16 MBytes seemed like a heck of a lot of memory. At the time, 16 MBytes *was* a heck of a lot of memory. But the architects recognized the trend that memory was getting denser; and as time wore on, those 16-bit address machines started falling to the wayside, whereas the 360 was able to just keep having its memory expanded. They designed in something that didn't become obsolete in just a few years. This example was given to me by a professor; I never really checked out the accuracy of this claim. I'm sure someone else out there can confirm/ deny this claim. ******************************************************************************** --Larry Yang [lyang@sun.com,{backbone}!sun!lyang]| A REAL _|> /\ | Sun Microsystems, Inc., Mountain View, CA | signature | | | /-\ |-\ /-\ Hobbes: "Why do we play war and not peace?" | <|_/ \_| \_/\| |_\_| Calvin: "Too few role models." | _/ _/