Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!hao!oddjob!gargoyle!ihnp4!cbosgd!clyde!watmath!orchid!egisin From: egisin@waterloo.edu (Eric Gisin) Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp,comp.mail.misc Subject: Re: dynamic routing for UUCP mail Message-ID: <10149@orchid.waterloo.edu> Date: Sat, 8-Aug-87 09:50:41 EDT Article-I.D.: orchid.10149 Posted: Sat Aug 8 09:50:41 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 9-Aug-87 12:53:33 EDT References: <915@bsu-cs.UUCP> <13680@topaz.rutgers.edu> <4577@felix.UUCP> Sender: egisin@orchid.waterloo.edu Distribution: na Lines: 33 Xref: mnetor comp.mail.uucp:749 comp.mail.misc:469 |Now consider that we have reached a Catch-22: the general consensus has been |reached that if an incoming `rmail' invocation contains a qualified bang |path, then one should not re-route it, and we should assume that the |raison-d'etre for the full bang path was that the originator knew where |he/she wished the mail route to take. Meanwhile, I was just struck with |the rememberance that one of the reasons for the development of smart |mailers in the first place was to get around the fact that replies to news |articles were using the incoming Path: to generate the return path, which |thus occasionally became many, many hostnames long!! Using smart mailers |enabled using the From: line to generate single RFC822 `user@host.UUCP' or |`user@some.do.MAIN' paths. Now, the sentiment for `leaving bang paths alone' |is all well and good; but given that replies to Usenet news articles probably |account for a healthy proportion of mail traffic, it seems that taking this |attitude isn't really doing any good in the long run. 6 of one, half a dozen |of the other as the saying goes ... | |No, I don't have any solutions, either. Just thought I'd point this out. Is there any need to support the reply-to-Path mechanism of news anymore? I'm assuming sites without a smart mailer are small and have one uucp link to the outside world and a few local links. Is that reasonable? I think anyone with a number of long-distance links would install a smart mailer for the obvious economic benefits. If my assumption is correct, a simple mailer could be put into future news readers that used the From: address. It would only have to recognize local domains (or local-host.uucp), and pass everything thing else to link-to-rest-of-world!domain!user. Of course that assumes link-to-rest-of-world, or someone down the way, is running smail or some other domain mailer. I'm probably being overly optimistic that most major sites running a domain mailer.