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From: jay@splut.UUCP (Jay Maynard)
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: Re: Obnoxious software (was Re: C license agreements)
Message-ID: <24@splut.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 3-Aug-87 04:48:06 EDT
Article-I.D.: splut.24
Posted: Mon Aug  3 04:48:06 1987
Date-Received: Fri, 7-Aug-87 04:27:38 EDT
References: <8387@brl-adm.ARPA> <6146@brl-smoke.ARPA> <870@bsu-cs.UUCP>
Organization: Confederate Microsystems, League City, TX
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Summary: A short dissension: why not have a noisy output?

In article <870@bsu-cs.UUCP>, dhesi@bsu-cs.UUCP (Rahul Dhesi) writes:
> In article <6146@brl-smoke.ARPA> gwyn@brl.arpa (Doug Gwyn) writes:
> >I think Ken & Dennis would have croaked anybody who tried to make
> >UNIX utilities print out identifying messages etc.
> 
> Wish Ken and Dennis could get a lynch mob together.  If you use
> Microsoft's make utility to compile a collection of say 20 C files
> using Microsoft's C compiler, and then link them with Microsoft's
> linker, you get a steady barrage of obnoxious copyright messages:
> 
>      one from the make program when it starts up
>      20 from the C compiler, one for each file compiled
>      one from the linker.....
> (complaints about other compilers, and solution for paranoid)

Allow me to dissent slightly...

There's one advantage to having the compiler spit out messages as it does
things: knowing that the machine is actually doing something. Under the MSC
compiler, and others that insist on telling you that they're copyrighted 16
million different ways and they'll come and take you away if you even think
about copying the code, it's easy to tell how far along a long compile is.

If I'm doing a 'cc foo*.c -o foo', there's no way to tell short of switching
consoles (easy under Microport) and running ps. Bleh. I'd like a way to know
how far along things are going so I can test my program.

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