Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!mimsy!aplcen!jhunix!ins_anmy From: ins_anmy@jhunix.UUCP (Norman Yarvin) Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Copy Protection Message-ID: <5150@jhunix.UUCP> Date: Sun, 9-Aug-87 00:38:46 EDT Article-I.D.: jhunix.5150 Posted: Sun Aug 9 00:38:46 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 9-Aug-87 21:45:53 EDT References: <6965@ism780c.UUCP> <1193@killer.UUCP> <776@cod.UUCP> <470@bms-at.UUCP> <184@nikhefk.UUCP> Reply-To: ins_anmy@jhunix.UUCP (Norman Yarvin) Organization: JHU Lines: 33 Keywords: Serial Numbers Summary: not on micros In article <184@nikhefk.UUCP> keeshu@nikhefk.UUCP (Kees Huyser) writes: >In article <470@bms-at.UUCP> stuart@bms-at.UUCP (Stuart D. Gathman) writes: >> >>The best method of protection for publishers I have seen is... The following is intended to be the final word on copy protection: :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you have physical control over the machine, you can copy and use ANY PIECE OF SOFTWARE. It may be an annoyance -- an annoyance that most companies assume you will not overcome -- but you CAN do it. If you do not have physical control over the computer, you may be able to copy some sotfware, but there is no guarantee. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thus dongles: they try to limit your control over the machine, but to really be impenetrable they would have to take total control over the machine at powerup, and be part of the (memory-protected) operating system. Of course even then you could run a different OS, unless the boot ROMs had the dongle code, and then you could replace the ROMs... Whereas on the computer I am working on now, there would be NO WAY for me to get my hands on any of that software -- other than physically breaking in and taking physical control of the machine -- which I do not plan to do. Of course if the superuser had left anything writeable from / to /etc/passwd, I could have wreaked havoc (of course I checked that long ago. :-) Norman Yarvin (seismo!umcp-cs | ihnp4!whuxcc | allegra!hopkins) !jhunix!ins_anmy "Unix is a hard nut to crack: once you get off the shell, there's nothing there but the kernel."