Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!ut-sally!husc6!sri-unix!sri-spam!mordor!lll-lcc!unisoft!hoptoad!gnu From: gnu@hoptoad.uucp (John Gilmore) Newsgroups: comp.os.minix Subject: Re: tty driver, single threading, and Minix politics Message-ID: <2596@hoptoad.uucp> Date: Fri, 31-Jul-87 07:22:47 EDT Article-I.D.: hoptoad.2596 Posted: Fri Jul 31 07:22:47 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 1-Aug-87 22:13:04 EDT References: <310@galbp.LBP.HARRIS.COM> <1542@botter.cs.vu.nl> <1547@botter.cs.vu.nl> Organization: Nebula Consultants in San Francisco Lines: 19 I was really encouraged when I read Bing Bang's message about how making the tty driver work required fixing the file system code, so he did. The whole single threaded way that Minix FS works is a design flaw; Bing seems to be fixing it, since some sort of fix is required to allow access to devices that aren't as fast as disks; and AST is complaining that he wants small diffs rather than a working tty? And that since the Atari version is almost done, it too should remain broken? Maybe Andy's interests and the Minix customers' interests don't run together here. It sounds like Andy wants a stable system so the book doesn't go obsolete soon, while the users want a system that works; bug fixes over the net; and for Prentice-Hall to ship the latest, working stuff, whether or not it matches the book, so they can get a copy when they are tired of applying a thousand incompatible diffs. If the code was free like GNU, somebody else could set up an alternative distribution medium for the latest code, so you both could get what you wanted. Sort of like Berkeley and AT&T maybe :-). -- {dasys1,ncoast,well,sun,ihnp4}!hoptoad!gnu gnu@postgres.berkeley.edu Alt.all: the alternative radio of the Usenet.