Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!husc6!bloom-beacon!mit-hermes!iuvax!pur-ee!uiucdcs!uxc.cso.uiuc.edu!sandrock From: sandrock@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: IBM TCP. Message-ID: <171500007@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Wed, 5-Aug-87 13:18:00 EDT Article-I.D.: uxc.171500007 Posted: Wed Aug 5 13:18:00 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 8-Aug-87 09:29:18 EDT References: <11@<12320729020> Lines: 30 Nf-ID: #R:<12320729020:11:uxc.cso.uiuc.edu:171500007:000:1717 Nf-From: uxc.cso.uiuc.edu!sandrock Aug 5 12:18:00 1987 I hope you will bear with me... not being yet familiar with the workings of UNIX mail I don't know if my responses to individual mail will also be posted here, but I would like to clarify my statements re: DECnet... I still have not seen any example of a DECnet-assigned Ethernet address which is NOT globally unique. Can someone give such an example of DEC's preemption of another vendor's Ethernet address? I realize that it would be possible for 2 DECnet nodes to choose the same DECnet address thereby choosing the same Ethernet address, but in practice of course this is not supposed to happen, anymore than 2 sites choosing the same IP address. While I also do not know of any "global administration" of DECnet ad- dresses, it so happens that here at the University of Illinois we make all DECnet address assignments through a contact with the PHYSnet man- agement (no, I don't know any more details than that). To say this another way, I am free to bring up my own Ethernet (in my office, right!) and choose any DECnet and/or IP addresses I want for my personal machines, but once I connect my net to the Internet or PHYSnet or whatever, I obviously must choose to coexist in harmony (or suffer the consequences!). Also, I agree that 2**16 unique addresses is an undesirable limitation, but at one time it was only 2**10 addresses, and so one might surmise that DEC will once again respond to the perceived need for more addresses in due time. This may all be a moot discussion in light of newer protocols being developed (?), but then who can really say? (Not me anyway (:^)) Mark Sandrock, (sandrock@uiucuxc.UUCP)