Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!rutgers!labrea!decwrl!pyramid!hplabs!hplabsz!taylor From: jsnyder@june.cs.washington.edu (John R. Snyder) Newsgroups: comp.society Subject: Re: Luddites Message-ID: <621@hplabsz.HPL.HP.COM> Date: Wed, 5-Aug-87 18:14:15 EDT Article-I.D.: hplabsz.621 Posted: Wed Aug 5 18:14:15 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 22-Aug-87 18:41:48 EDT References: <2264@hplabsc.HP.COM> Sender: taylor@hplabsz.HPL.HP.COM Distribution: world Lines: 15 Approved: taylor@hplabs As I am generally too busy/lazy to look up articles in history or sociology journals, I would appreciate further postings on recent "Luddite scholarship". We should probably observe a moratorium on use of the term "Luddite" until we know what we're referring to. The most absurd use of the term I've ever witnessed was the work of former U.S. Secretary of the Navy John Lehman. Lehman appeared in a panel discussion sponsored by Symbolics Corp. at the recent American Assoc. for Artificial Intelligence conference in Seattle. There Lehman characterized any opposition to Star Wars "research" as Luddite, drawing into this enormous net fellow panelists James Schlesinger and Marvin Minsky (!), not to mention a majority of the large audience made up almost entirely of AI researchers and engineers. I wonder what Ned Ludd would have thought of that! John R. Snyder