Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!gatech!bloom-beacon!think!ames!ptsfa!ihnp4!cbosgd!osu-eddie!paul%tut.cis.ohio-state.edu From: paul%tut.cis.ohio-state.edu@osu-eddie.UUCP (Paul Placeway) Newsgroups: comp.sources.d Subject: Re: EndOfSourcesList+AnnouncementOfNetOm - (nf) Message-ID: <3833@osu-eddie.UUCP> Date: Sat, 18-Jul-87 11:29:08 EDT Article-I.D.: osu-eddi.3833 Posted: Sat Jul 18 11:29:08 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 19-Jul-87 06:44:52 EDT References: <267@brandx.UUCP> <7200004@iaoobelix.UUCP> <289@brandx.rutgers.edu> <1619@celtics.UUCP> Sender: news@osu-eddie.UUCP Reply-To: paul%tut.cis.ohio-state.edu@osu-eddie.UUCP (Paul Placeway) Organization: The Ohio State University, CIS Dept. Lines: 38 In article <1619@celtics.UUCP> roger@celtics.UUCP (Roger B.A. Klorese) writes: >In article <289@brandx.rutgers.edu> webber@brandx.rutgers.edu (Webber) writes: >>For all practical purposes, they are playing by a different set of rules >>than the portion of Usenet that is inside the United States (and portions >>of Canada). All of these nets are referred to collectively as Internet. > >"The portion of Usenet that is inside the United States (and portions of >Canada)" is NOT the Internet, nor is the collection of those systems and >the aforementioned European and Australian nodes. My system shares UUCP >connections with its news feeds. Since it carries news, it is a Usenet >site. It is NOT an Internet site, as it has no TCP/IP based connections >with the network coordinated by the NIC. (That network is the Internet.) Quite true. The Internet is coordinated by the NIC, Period. osu-eddie runs uucp, receives, stores, forwards, and sends news; therefore it is a Usenet site. Eddie is also on CSNet (as ohio-state.arpa), we can originate and receive TCP/IP sockets, etc. Since we are on CSNet, using Allnet X25, we have to pay for all CSNet communication in or out, per packet. Do you think that we will forward mail between Usenet and ARPA? If you think that we will, you are crazy. What I am saying is this: Mr. Webber, if you want to pay for the international communication costs for your sources mailing list (a truly BAD idea, from a communication efficiency viewpoint), or a news group (such as alt.sources), fine. Go right ahead, you will be doing a service to many people. If you aren't, then STOP GRIPING ABOUT IT TO THE REST OF THE NET! Tired of hearing the same old trash over and over and over and... -=- -- Paul Placeway Department of Computer and Information Science SNail: The Ohio State University 2036 Neil Ave. Columbus OH USA 43210-1277 ARPA: paul@ohio-state.{arpa,csnet} (soon): paul@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu UUCP: ...!cbosgd!osu-eddie!paul