Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!husc6!sri-unix!ctnews!pyramid!uccba!hal!ncoast!allbery From: allbery@ncoast.UUCP (Brandon Allbery) Newsgroups: comp.sources.d Subject: Re: Of Paranoia and of Internet (Was: Re: EndOfSourcesList ...) Message-ID: <3632@ncoast.UUCP> Date: Sun, 26-Jul-87 16:21:26 EDT Article-I.D.: ncoast.3632 Posted: Sun Jul 26 16:21:26 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 29-Jul-87 04:28:11 EDT References: <267@brandx.UUCP> <7200004@iaoobelix.UUCP> <289@brandx.rutgers.edu> <1619@celtics.UUCP> <301@brandx.rutgers.edu> Reply-To: allbery@ncoast.UUCP (Brandon Allbery) Followup-To: comp.sources.d Organization: Cleveland Public Access UN*X, Cleveland, Oh Lines: 48 As quoted from <301@brandx.rutgers.edu> by webber@brandx.rutgers.edu (Webber): +--------------- | In article <1619@celtics.UUCP>, roger@celtics.UUCP (Roger B.A. Klorese) writes: | > In article <289@brandx.rutgers.edu> webber@brandx.rutgers.edu (Webber) writes: | > >quickly found out that the gateways out of the U.S. to places like | > >Europe and Austrailia are downright paranoid about communications cost. | > | > If you consider the fact that they have to pay for them, rather than getting | > gifdts from your and my tax money, to be "downright paranoid", then you are | > right, they're downright paranoid. Sane people think they're realistic. | | Doubtless paranoia is not the appropriate clinical term, but I would | hardly call people who threaten to sue if they transfer messages that | they don't want due to their own laziness as `realistic.' I hardly +--------------- I take it, then, that you believe you have a God-given right to send stuff anywhere and have EVERYONE forward it. Tell it to the folks who run the IBM VNET. Laziness? NO! If _you_ had to pay for all your messages, out of your own pocket, you _might_ be willing. If you had to pay for _mine_, because I announced that I have a God-given right to have my messages forwarded by everyone on every network, you'd leave the network business (or get pissed off at me, and rightly so). The hard facts are monetary. Obviously you haven't had to pay for your machine's news link. +--------------- | > >than the portion of Usenet that is inside the United States (and portions | > >of Canada). All of these nets are referred to collectively as Internet. | > | > site. It is NOT an Internet site, as it has no TCP/IP based connections | > with the network coordinated by the NIC. (That network is the Internet.) | | My observation of common usage is that Internet refers to any site | that can be reached via a mail address that can be parsed according to | the rules set down in the appropriate RFCs. One of the points of the +--------------- The full name for the Internet is the "U.S. Department of Defense Internet". In other words, DoD owns it, and therefore Bob Webber can't change the defi- nition to suit his tastes. If you disagree, argue it with the DoD, since it's their term. -- Brandon S. Allbery, moderator of comp.sources.misc and comp.binaries.ibm.pc {{harvard,mit-eddie}!necntc,well!hoptoad,sun!cwruecmp!hal}!ncoast!allbery ARPA: necntc!ncoast!allbery@harvard.harvard.edu Fido: 157/502 MCI: BALLBERY <>