Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!henry From: henry@utzoo.UUCP (Henry Spencer) Newsgroups: sci.lang,comp.std.internat Subject: Re: Character representation Message-ID: <8462@utzoo.UUCP> Date: Sat, 22-Aug-87 22:44:57 EDT Article-I.D.: utzoo.8462 Posted: Sat Aug 22 22:44:57 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 22-Aug-87 22:44:57 EDT References: <15381@mordor.s1.gov>, <1583@athena.TEK.COM> Organization: U of Toronto Zoology Lines: 24 > I haven't seen anyone mention an ISO standard yet. I was under the impression > that there was one. Am I wrong? I don't much care for the alternates > that I have seen used by terminal manufacturers in the US which is a > keyboard with many of the special symbols replaced with accented characters. Unfortunately, this *is* the (old) ISO standard. Seven or eight of the special symbols in ASCII are in positions which the ISO 7-bit standard designates as "reserved for national alphabets", or words to that effect. ASCII, of course, doesn't need any extra national-alphabet symbols, so it filled those positions with neat but ASCII-specific things. The mess that results from this was a major motivation for the new ISO Latin standard, which is an 8-bit character set that includes all of ASCII plus some extra goodies plus pretty well everything needed to write the Latin-derived languages. ISO Latin is unquestionably the wave of the future -- it will help a lot and won't hurt much. It WILL hurt a little (for example, there aren't many Unix programs that use the top bit of char for something else, but those few are exactly the programs that one least wants to modify: the editors and the shells!), but it won't be a tenth as painful as the more drastic changes needed to do seriously non-Latin alphabets like Chinese and Arabic. My own personal view is that ISO Latin is a Good Thing, I am planning my software for it, and everybody else should too. The various proposals for dealing with the non-Latin alphabets, on the other hand, all seem to me to have rather higher price tags, and I take a "wait and see" attitude toward them. -- Apollo was the doorway to the stars. | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology Next time, we should open it. | {allegra,ihnp4,decvax,utai}!utzoo!henry