Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!mcvax!enea!kuling!andersa From: andersa@kuling.UUCP (Anders Andersson) Newsgroups: comp.std.internat,sci.lang Subject: Re: Computers and human languages Message-ID: <480@kuling.UUCP> Date: Sat, 22-Aug-87 18:28:01 EDT Article-I.D.: kuling.480 Posted: Sat Aug 22 18:28:01 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 23-Aug-87 21:43:53 EDT References: <218@astra.necisa.oz> <142700010@tiger.UUCP> <2792@phri.UUCP> <8708171253.AA21033@ephemeral.ai.toronto.edu> <111@quick.UUCP> Reply-To: andersa@kuling.UUCP (Anders Andersson) Organization: Uppsala University, Sweden Lines: 24 Xref: mnetor comp.std.internat:154 sci.lang:1196 In article <111@quick.UUCP> srg@quick.UUCP (Spencer Garrett) writes: >I was told once (by a respected linguist, as I recall) that English and >Russian are the ONLY two languages written with unaccented alphabets. I That depends on the definition of "accented". A Russian "J" is simply an "I" (a reversed "N") with a kind of U-arc on top of it, and they are sorted the same. "E" has an umlaut-like accent which changes the vowel from "ye" to "yo", but this seldom shows up in print (except for dictionaries, which also use common acute accent to show pronounciation). There are the hard and soft signs which have no phonetic value of their own, but they look like ordinary letters. I think it's funny that they are relevant in sorting, just as if the apostrophe should have it's own place in the English and French alphabets... Anyway, it's true that accents don't play such a big role in Russian as they do in French or Czech. English is probably the least complicated in this matter, but I don't consider the English alphabet absolutely "pure" in some accentophobic sense. Every alphabet has its history of anomalies. Disclaimer: I'm NOT an educated linguist, just an amateur. Although I hold the above for true, any linguist could probably provide more detail. -- Anders Andersson, Dept. of Computer Systems, Uppsala University, Sweden Phone: +46 18 183170 UUCP: andersa@kuling.UUCP (...!{seismo,mcvax}!enea!kuling!andersa)