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From: cmcmanis%pepper@Sun.COM (Chuck McManis)
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Subject: Re: Sun NeWS on the Amiga
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Date: Wed, 29-Jul-87 20:29:44 EDT
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Posted: Wed Jul 29 20:29:44 1987
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In article <302@l5comp.UUCP> scotty@l5comp.UUCP (Scott Turner) writes:
>Leo, he says it's $100 "for Suns"... This brings a few questions to my mind:
>1. Can I buy News from Sun on a cartridge for $100 if I don't intend to use
>it on a Sun 3??? ie do I need a Sun 3 serial #?
Yes, it comes on a 1/4" (or 1/2") tape and you don't need a serial number.

>2. Is $100 the single copy price or is that a quantity/dealer price?
It's the price to you, the user. 

>3. Is the binary complete or do I need to have NFS etc as well?
Huh? The tape contains sun-3 binaries. Since all Sun-3's come with NFS
you don't need anything extra, just load it and go. If you try to run
the binaries on a non-Sun machine the stuff that talks to the frame buffer
and the network interface will die a horrible death. Basically, it is not
feasible to run it on anything but a Sun-3, but we'll still sell you the 
tape. NOTE: Buying a tape includes a Sun-3 binary liscence, you could not
buy a Sun tape, and then have someone mail you an Amiga port and use it.
For that you would need an Amiga Binary license. (No we don't sell such a 
thing)

>4. And you're right Leo, just about everything is overpriced for un*x. Mainly
>because noone believes that only one person will be using software at a site
>since a un*x machine is inherently multi-user. But if news is only $100 how
>much are the manuals?
I believe the manuals are included in the $100 price but you should call Sun
to check. In our yearly results we mention the number of units in the field.
Currently that number is 44,000 Suns. (Not all Sun 3's) Needless to say to
make back your investment in software for that number of machines will require
you to charge higher prices. At over 200,000 Amigas you can get away with
$50-$300 priced packages. As the installed base expands the prices should
come down (they always have in the past).

--Chuck McManis
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These opinions are my own and no one elses, but you knew that didn't you.