Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!ut-sally!utah-cs!utah-gr!stride!l5comp!scotty From: scotty@l5comp.UUCP (Scott Turner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Wishlist for 1.3 Executive. Message-ID: <313@l5comp.UUCP> Date: Fri, 7-Aug-87 19:56:33 EDT Article-I.D.: l5comp.313 Posted: Fri Aug 7 19:56:33 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 9-Aug-87 22:05:15 EDT References: <1248@spice.cs.cmu.edu> Reply-To: scotty@l5comp.UUCP (Scott Turner) Organization: L5 Computing, Edmonds, WA Lines: 30 Summary: Not debugging is a worse problem. In article <1248@spice.cs.cmu.edu> mjp@spice.cs.cmu.edu (Michael Portuesi) writes: >But the problem with these ideas is that it creates an environment >that is *not the same* as the one Joe User will be using. Problems The idea WAS to create such an environment. The debug tools get to live in FAST ram and the program in CHIP ram. If having an EXACT memavail is needed then you can allocate a hunk of ram to match that used by the OS in a 512k machine. >of program development. Subtle errors can sneak in which get past QA >and meet Joe User, whose environment is not the same. Aegis has >already run into this problem with Diga!, and list a whole bunch of BLOCKER could be used to disable the FAST ram for QA testing. But what kind of ram you have is only half the problem. Aegis screwed up in not using a stock workbench disk to do testing. If their QA department had booted up with a stock workbench disk AND then tested Diga they might have avoided some of the fun they've had with that product. >changes to make the environment of the distributed product match that >of the developer's enviroment. The more you distance yourself from >the vanilla environment, the more you are asking for trouble. But you also forget one of the USES for BLOCKER, to let the a programmer debug a program that would otherwise eat all the ram and leave none for debugging tools. As TDI has shown it's kinda nice to DEBUG things before you ship them. :) Scott Turner -- UUCP-stick: stride!l5comp!scotty | If you want to injure my goldfish just make UUCP-auto: scotty@l5comp.UUCP | sure I don't run up a vet bill. GEnie: JST | "The bombs drop in 5 minutes" R. Reagan "Pirated software? Just say *NO*!" S. Turner