Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!cwruecmp!neoucom!wtm From: wtm@neoucom.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: There's No Fun At Pixar Message-ID: <649@neoucom.UUCP> Date: Mon, 10-Aug-87 00:24:28 EDT Article-I.D.: neoucom.649 Posted: Mon Aug 10 00:24:28 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 11-Aug-87 01:37:10 EDT References: <1681@cadovax.UUCP> <921@hp-sdd.HP.COM> <24931@sun.uucp> Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine Lines: 49 Summary: Leo's animation was original art I really doubt that Pixar can really do much to Leo for his unicyle animation that is similar to a scene from Pixar's "Red's Dreams". Visual copyright laws are, unfortunately, pretty flabby and difficult to enforce unless two artistic products are virtually identical. That is to say that a photo transparency of Leo's scene when place over a photo transparency of Red's Dreams placed one over the other and held up to the light wouldn't show any differences. Text book illustrators often get away by adding a few embelishments to a figure from a different text and get away with publishing without attributions. Its amusing that Pixar would acknowledge that something created on a lowly Amiga could challenge the output from their $$$ machines and bevy of employees. It seems that in effect, Pixar is admitting inferior design and performance. If I had $$$ pixar equipment, I'd be annoyed that Pixar is suggesting a $2K Amiga can do as much. Seems like a poorly thought out piece of Publicity on Pixar's part. If a suit were filed and Pixar won, it seems that Pixar would be open for [possibly legal] complaints from its customers for not providing appropriate bang for the $$$ buck. Its a pretty nice compliment for Amiga that the big guys can be upset by such a modest machine! Number one, I think that it would be pretty difficult for Pixar to claim damages becuase Red's Dreams is not for sale, and I doublt that they could substantively prove that sales of Pixar computers declined as potential users switched to Amigas 8 :-). The argument of Leo's demo being an inferior copy being mistaken for the "real thing" (R's D) and thus discrediting Pixar's reputation probably wouldn't wash. Number two, Leo could claim that his work is a parody. Grant Woods' "American Gothic" is copyrighted. That is the "Green Acres" painting of a man with a pitchfork and woman in front of a house. Note that Green Acres' opening shot is a parody of that. There are a lot of lampoonish paintings of Woods' painting around whose authours aren't worried. Pixar reads this net. I hope they have already applied the appropriate 40 lashes with the mandatory wet noodle to the spoil- sports in their carde. By the way, I'm not a lawyer. The usual disclaimers about opinion versus fact apply to the above ranting. Way to go. --Bill (wtm@noeuocm.UUCP)