Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!rutgers!ucla-cs!zen!ucbvax!YALEVM.BITNET!EWING From: EWING@YALEVM.BITNET (Rick Ewing) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: RE: Apple ][ Forever? Message-ID: <8707291034.aa25905@SMOKE.BRL.ARPA> Date: Wed, 29-Jul-87 10:56:27 EDT Article-I.D.: SMOKE.8707291034.aa25905 Posted: Wed Jul 29 10:56:27 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 1-Aug-87 10:04:14 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Distribution: world Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 45 Regarding the presumed "demise" of the Apple ][ series and lack of interest from Apple Co.: (part rebuttle, part *flame*) I don't know just *where* that you may be getting your information from, but I can say that the death of the Apple ][ is completely and absolutely **false**. The Apple ][ series has had a wonderful new commitment in interest and product research in the last two years, and any rumors to the contrary would be absolutely ridiculous. We have, unfortunetely been suffering from the neglect that was incurred from the Jobs administration a few years back. Since that is no longer an issue, and we now have a new machine to develop software for, more interesting and wonderful software is due to come down the pipeline. Remember the first year of the Mac? There were only about 10 or so programs even out there worth having, few desk accessories, *no* meaningful utilities, and the same doubts on its future that we seem to be having on the Apple ][ world now. GIVE IT TIME!!! You will be justly rewarded for your patience. The IIgs right nowis going through the same growing pains of timprop (proper, sorry) tools to fully exploit its features. One of the biggest assets in the Macintosh programming world was the invention of the MPW programming system, but the development of this system has (and still isis) taking time to flower into what it can be. The same is true for APW. We still have a long way to go with this system, but we'll get there. **Flame ON** About the neglect of Apple to supply representatives here on this forum: Well, this is one Apple rep has been here since September of last year. I agree that more should be here, but its completely untrue that Apple isn't listening. I include all major problems that I find in my reports and try to track down answers for them if a can, especially in recent issues such as ProDOS 00 trashing, the VGC bug, Finder development and the like. I wish I could tell you more about what I know coming down the pipeline, but you'll find out soon enough. Probably Apple's biggest sign of renewed Apple ][ commitment is the upcoming Appleworld conference in San Francisco in September, ouir first such conference in years for the Apple ][ series. If the Apple ][ is dead, then I haven't seen it from the people I've talked to. And a final point. For all of you interested in the bottom line, Apple couldn't have achieved thos great financial statements in the past year without the Apple. If Apple abandonned the Apple ][ tomorrow, then they would be a seriously crippled company. Remember that Sculley is a financial man. He knowsas well as I that he couldn't survive without the Apple ][. I still remember the night on Compuserve when the IIgs was rolled out in conference. The special surprise guest was indeed that same CEO who was just as excited as we were. **Flame OFF** Richard Ewing Trinity College Apple Computer Consultant EWING@YALEVM.bitnet