Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!uwvax!uwmacc!uwmcsd1!leah!itsgw!batcomputer!engst From: engst@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (Adam C. Engst) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga,comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: And the winner is... Message-ID: <1949@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> Date: Mon, 10-Aug-87 09:23:49 EDT Article-I.D.: batcompu.1949 Posted: Mon Aug 10 09:23:49 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 11-Aug-87 02:31:08 EDT References: <17680@cca.CCA.COM> <979@eneevax.UUCP> <419@rocky.STANFORD.EDU> <411@uop.UUCP> <435@sugar.UUCP> Reply-To: engst@tcgould.tn.cornell.edu (Adam C. Engst) Distribution: na Organization: Cornell Theory Center, Cornell University, Ithaca NY Lines: 73 Keywords: Stop complaining and give unused equipment a good home. Summary: Anyone who is happy with their computer wins! Xref: mnetor comp.sys.amiga:7291 comp.sys.atari.st:4765 In article <435@sugar.UUCP> karl@sugar.UUCP (Karl Lehenbauer) writes: >Porting those cool Amiga programs to the ST will be kind of difficult, at >least any programs that make use of digital audio, 640 X 400 X 16, >320 X 200 X 32, HAM graphics or multitasking. Sorry, the ST is not >equally powerful, except in pure 68000 CPU cycles. Anybody want to buy >mine? It's been languishing in the closet ever since the Amiga arrived. I'm really curious about something. A number of people who rave about how wonderful the Amiga is particularly when compared to the ST also seem to have an ST. This is strange enough - most people decide on one type of computer, buy it, and then defend it. Yet these people are buying two expensive computers, using one solely and letting the other "languish in the closet." Maybe they have great expense accounts and can afford to have a perfectly usable computer gather dust in the closet but I would doubt it. Yet whenever I read one of these postings about how awful the ST is and how they never touch it because it's problems might be contagious to the Amiga and how it is relegate to shimming up that short leg on the picnic table I really wonder why they don't sell it and buy a new leg for the picnic table. I know they don't want to sell it because each time I write back, or attempt to anyway and post instead, I don't get any answers. Since Cornell is a big place and fairly easy to get mail into, I don't believe that they can claim mailer problems. Admittedly, I can't offer full retail price for their ST or extra drive or monitor, but why should they expect it when they say that the ST isn't worth the plastic that holds its electronics in place. I happen to like the ST for a number of reasons, one of which is price. I would probably like an Amiga for a similarly cheap price, but there aren't any dealers in Ithaca who even sell the Amiga, much less at a discount like our ST dealer. My other major reason for liking the ST is that I need to use a number of different computers at work, including the Mac, the IBM, and mainframes, and I've found that the ST is great for terminal emulation, runs a mean IBM-emulation with pc-DITTO, and has the Magic Sac available. I don't trash on the Amiga because I think it is a good machine, no better than the ST, no worse, but simply different. It simply wasn't right for my budget and needs, whereas the ST was and is. That's one reason why I resent these people trashing on the ST. The other is that I would like to add to my ST system now but I still have to watch my budget. I would like a second drive or even a hard drive (the Astra second floppy/hard drive looks nice!) and a mono monitor and a friend would like a second CPU so between us we could purchase an Amigan's useless ST (currently gathering dust or languishing or holding up the short leg on the picnic table) for a reduced price (heck, we'd even throw in a brick for the picnic table!) and give it a good home. I'd do it for a cat, why not a computer? Adam Engst If you wish to tell me that the ST was not the right computer for me to buy and wish to do so with either threats, curses, logical reasons, flames, or whatever, please email me and save the wars. If you wish to part with anything from your ST system, useless as it may be to you or otherwise, again, please email me and give an ST a good home. I'll bet there are others in position out there and we can start a Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Computers. I'll be a charter member since I just adopted a maimed VT100 with a geriatric 300 baud modem. They're easy to litter train and they don't take much power and they're very appreciative of being rescued. All they need is a little appreciation. :-) :-) :-) engst@tcgould.tn.cornell.edu pv9y@cornella.bitnet B7 Upson Hall Cornell University (work) Ithaca, NY 14853 505 Wyckoff Ave, #1 Ithaca, NY 14850 (home) 607-257-3073