Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!cwruecmp!neoucom!wtm From: wtm@neoucom.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: Intel Microprocessors Message-ID: <667@neoucom.UUCP> Date: Tue, 18-Aug-87 15:42:21 EDT Article-I.D.: neoucom.667 Posted: Tue Aug 18 15:42:21 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 21-Aug-87 04:06:34 EDT References: <1112@lznv.ATT.COM> <399@aucs.UUCP> <3225@cucca.columbia.edu> <79@LBI.UUCP> Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine Lines: 39 Summary: What about the IBM 9000 << various stuff about 80x8[8|6] vs. 680x0 and IBM, etc. >> Anybody remember the truly awful IBM 9000 so-called laboratory computer? I'm not sure; what it had inside seems like it might have been a 68K chip. It hit the market at about the same time as the original PeeCee. Regardless of the PeeCee, virtually everybody I knew that can in contact with the IBM 9000 was pretty annoyed with it. It was totally incompatible with everything else in the world, including everything from IBM itself. IBM refused to sell us software. They sold it to us to ostensibly run our liquid chromatographs, but waited two years to deliver the LC software. Actually, IBM did deliver some LC software, but it would only digitize a single channel. They had promised that the machine would be able to handle two channels. They never did manage to deliver the assembler for it, which is why I'm not sure what chip was really inside. We struggled along trying to write our software in a really rotten port of Microsoft MBASIC. It had the feature of yielding 2*8=16 while something like 1*16=15.75!! The internal representation was supposed to support 6 digits of precision: oh well. The 9000 also featured a color printer mechanism made by IDS (now Data Products) that was unbelievably unreliable. (Anybody ever have to endure a IDS Paper Tiger?) IBM has since sold their laboratory instrument division to Nicolet and mercifully burried the 9000. Nicolet **gave** us a manual operating station to run the LCs so that the IBM computer could be removed. The IBM now is used mainly to prop the door to the room open on hot days. Oh, I just heard that it was definitely based on the 68000. The person looking over my shoulder also complained that the darn RAM chips were soldered in, so they couldn't even be used for something worthwhile like an Aboveboard. --Bill (wtm@neoucom.UUCP)